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I don't see a massive problem with it myself assuming range, cooldown and duration etc are at sensible levels but these can be tweaked.
After all, BF4 had far more spotting methods and we all want a return to BF4 right?
Whatever happens though, let's hope BF2042 doesn't become the hardcore light game BFV did and excessive nerfing/removing of mechanics such as this is a step in that direction.
We all know what happened to BFV.....
- 4 years ago@Trokey66 I didn't play BFV the first year, so I'm not sure if that's when some of this odd balancing stuff happened. Right now I think BFV is really well balanced. Spotting is limited, TTK feels just right, I love everything about it honestly besides the setting. It's not bad or anything, but I love my modern sights.
- R1ckyDaMan194 years agoSeasoned Ace@Trokey66 Well everyone had the ability to spot, now only people playing that specialist can, although I see where you are coming from.
- Trokey664 years agoSeasoned Ace@R1ckyDaMan19 From the latest video, it would also appear to be an individual 'perk' with the outlines visible to the player only.
I may be wrong but the fact that it is 'glasses' supports that assumption.
I do genuinely think this is another knee * reaction to something we don't know enough about. Nerfing/buffing anything before release (especially as not in the Beta) is wrong in my opinion.
- ragnarok0134 years agoHero+
@Trokey66 wrote:
I don't see a massive problem with it myself assuming range, cooldown and duration etc are at sensible levels but these can be tweaked.
After all, BF4 had far more spotting methods and we all want a return to BF4 right?
Whatever happens though, let's hope BF2042 doesn't become the hardcore light game BFV did and excessive nerfing/removing of mechanics such as this is a step in that direction.
We all know what happened to BFV.....
@Trokey66 BF4 didn't have a literal wallhack though. We had the optional spotter gadgets on carbines that you had to ADS to spot enemies with, the MAV, TUGs, and the sensor ball that used an audible sound and shows on the minimap. All of those were far more balanced than a wallhack. I think the 2142 version of the gadget would be far better to use and far more balanced https://battlefield.fandom.com/wiki/DysTek_Pulse_Meter
- Trokey664 years agoSeasoned Ace@ragnarok013 You forgot a light fart putting you on the mini map as well.....
From an information point of view, a red dot, dorito or red outline has no fundamental difference at the end of the day. The player presented with any form of this information still has to decided how to deal with the threat and in most circumstances, I doubt the red outline will influence that decision in any real way.- ragnarok0134 years agoHero+
@Trokey66 wrote:
@ragnarok013 You forgot a light fart putting you on the mini map as well.....
From an information point of view, a red dot, dorito or red outline has no fundamental difference at the end of the day. The player presented with any form of this information still has to decided how to deal with the threat and in most circumstances, I doubt the red outline will influence that decision in any real way.@Trokey66 I think there is a difference between a stationary dorito (the 2142 version'd dorito didn't move like traditional 3D spotting it was more akin to BF5's ping spotting) and the red shadow from 2042 because a dorito only showed last known position whereas the red shadow n in 2142 shows player position, orientation and movement so you have real time intelligence on which way he's facing, and his continuously updated position while the ping is active. Even if Paik's scanner used the traditional 3D spotting dorito that moved you still don't know which way the enemy is facing and how exactly he is hiding just his direction of movement or non-movement which IMO is still more balanced than Paik's current ability.
- JRiv_Eagle4 years agoRising Adventurer@Trokey66 In the new video they used 2 pulses, It was said it can be used up to 3/4 times. Terrible. Just go with the ping system on tac map of last location and it disappears. This is unneeded. Imo.
- Trokey664 years agoSeasoned Ace@JRiv_Eagle Or perhaps you set up a portal server with no spotting?
Spotting is a 'core' mechanic in BF that is needed for teamplay and to aliviate some visibility issues.
My opinion of course.- JRiv_Eagle4 years agoRising Adventurer@Trokey66 I get it and totally understand. By scope and pin point accuracy yes. Not wall hack. Imo.