Gunplay & recoil mechanics
So first of all I hope that they remove random bullet deviation and static middlescreen crosshairs. I mean this balancing concept is so ancient and 'gamey', it's time for innovation! In the trai...
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@NoodlesocksI really hope they keep the gun-play from BFV.
I play on PC and don't know how the guns work/feel on console, but on PC they seem pretty fine in BFV.
The system where your bullets go where the gun aims in BFV (mostly), is much better than BF4/BF1. RBD was not intuitive, bullets not flying where the gun aims, just felt off somehow. Controlling spread in BF4/BF1 was annoying, because you had no visual indication from your gun on the screen.
If the gun-play needs randomness, put the randomness in recoil, this way you can still visually see why you miss your shots (again like in BFV).
Yer we need LASERs, ohh wait let's use hitscan too. It is a game? Yes, but having every bullet go exactly where aimed is over the top. Actual real life doesn't even have that.
What is being asked for is a very fast TTK, you may as well make every bullet 1 hit kill
Gun mechanic may have been good to some in BFV but the TTK sucked. Which was a big complaint in BFV.
Many ask for the ability to counter when in a vehicle yet for infantry we have the ability to counter snipers but someone with AR at 100m still needs to be able to kill all fast because it is not fun for the shooter, great logic applied selectively.
Again youse are playing a game. If real life stats like RPM are used with low BTK the TTK becomes too fast with the massive full damage hit boxes players have, so other stats need to be adjusted. Having accuracy as the only factor in a game when weapons failure, temperature, wind or muscle fatigue are not factors, makes it to low skill and easy to kill. This is why precision(spread), velocity, gravity and drag are need to make killing harder and requiring skill.
People need to think of all players not just the how the AR shooters feels.
You sure its random in BF4?
Im pretty sure its predictable. I swear i watched lots of vids on youtube back in the day, about each guns recoil pattern..then how to control it. Maybe it was marbleduck who done gun guides? Dunno
I always thought BF1 brought in RBD.
I could be very wrong...my memory can be pretty shocking these days lol.
Eitherways, i prefer predictable recoil patterns.
- @Goinggrey123 the term RBD was introduced in BF1 by YouTuber that had no idea what they were talking about and used exaggeration how spread worked to get clicks.
RBD has been part of BF at least since BF Vietnam(when I started playing).
Random recoil was tested in BF4 CTE but since it had a so called visual recoil some guns appeared much worse.
BF1 had predictable recoil and random spread the same as BF3/4 the difference was how Spread increase per shot(SIPS) was handled. It meant that in BF4 a high RPM weapon had just as good accuracy as low RPM weapon. BF1 changed that and made any high ROF have much higher spread. You need to fire 6 to 8 bullets before spread was bad.@DingoKillrand @OskooI_007 are pretty much on it for me.
And one thing to bare in mind about sights jumping around is the potential issue of motion sickness.
For me, somewhere between BF4 and BF1 would be bout right.
@DingoKillrDefinitely agree guns shouldn’t perform like laserbeams, but I think actual recoil patterns should handle most of the spread. Maybe a standard random deviation factor of 2-4moa should be handled, as that’s the standard accuracy of military issued rifles.
As an older player I can’t say too much about TTK in newer titles, but IMO the damage drop off in older titles was too much and muzzle velocities too slow, it kinda made distanced firefights feel like paintball battles. Now that the scale gets larger again in 2042 I think higher muzzle velocities are actually necessary.
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