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Oh two other things. We seriously need our scoreboard back. Seriously, just put BF4's scoreboard back into the game completely unchanged. Not being able to see how I'm getting better over time, not being able to see how my friends are doing or even the rest of the team is just beyond ridiculous. What we got is a regression back 2 decades in multiplayer FPS, and the only reason I can conceive of for EA's reasoning is to make new players feel better about themselves because they cant compare themselves to anyone else or see how bad their K/D is. That's not a good reason to make it the way they did, but it's the only reason I can think of for why they would make that change. But it hurts admins, anyone taking the game even remotely seriously (and when I say seriously, I just mean they care about getting better), and even just general players because teamkillers can run rampant without checks against them to ruin the game. I'm not sure if anyone can explain a decent reasoning for them to have the scoreboard as reduced as it is now instead of how all previous modern battlefields have elected to score players? Seems like a complete negative gameplay change to me.
We need all chat back. Servers are going to have some toxic users, it simply is what it is. Punishing literally every person in the game, while severely crippling half the server's ability to get admin help is a frankly massive "con" to counter the very minimal "pro" of slightly reducing the toxicity in server. I've been playing since Battlefield 2, and I have noticed that the chat has grown more toxic since BF3, but that is simply the people playing. Bad Company 2 had really chill servers for the most part and it still allowed chat between teams. If people can talk even to their whole team, then they can still be toxic to a vast amount of people. All removing inter-team chat does it remove the admin's ability to discipline people on the other team because the other team cant reach out to ask for admin help. I mean really, does anyone ACTUALLY feel like there is less toxicity in 2042 right now? During the beta it was an absolute madhouse even in team chat with people going wild and spazzing on eachother. If anything, it's gotten worse, not better.
- 4 years ago
@Stormblessed_Wit
Yes I agree with basically everything you mention, I think however a lot of those issues are far broader than HC or Portal, but are super important for HC or Portal to be succesful. I think those issues are getting a decent bit of traction with other conversations, but they are important to bring up here as well. All of these issues make different modes that are very basic staples of most FPS games difficult or impossible while simultaenously killing any sense of community... it leaves very little desire to play the game, and zero motivation to get my friends to buy it (currently I suggest that they do NOT buy it, and wait to see if all of these missing basic features will be implemented).2042 has so much potential, I just hope it manages to reach it instead of focusing on things no one is interested in like the silly santa skins and specialists (whole other discussion of dissapointment there of course)
- 4 years ago
- It's a major issue when EA is marketing portal as, and I quote, "Our tools. Your rules. Battlefield™ Portal is a love letter to the most long-standing fans of the franchise. Experience the nostalgia of past Battlefield games", and yet they are missing fundamental features for us to create any experience from the past.
- Even the base game stuff like normal core conquest has issues like vehicle play is super janky right now, but I have faith that the devs can and actually will fix that. What I'm not so sure about right now is portal, and portal is the only reason I have even the slightest bit of interest in this game.
- BF4 servers are still getting populated. BF4 has reasonably balanced hardcore, great vehicle balance, great teamplay, fantastic kit balancing (ignoring the fact that ammo should still be assault's kit like in BC2, and medkit should go to support). BF4 is just the superior game right now for anyone who enjoys hardcore.
- It would be super simple for EA to fix 2042 to be the objectively superior game in every way. I know it would be a good bit of work for them, but if they are going to promote 2042 as "our tools, your rules", I expect them to give us access to just about all of the fundamental editing tools for the modes.
- It wouldn't hurt anyone to let us have this access, and it would essentially make all previous battlefield games irrelevant if we can ACTUALLY play the modes we want, on the maps we want, with the upgraded engine/gameplay/graphics of 2042. If anything it would benefit both us and EA because we would get the features we want, and they would have less people going back to old games and ignoring their new fancy game (like what happened with BF5 on a lesser scale).
- Right now I'm still recommending everyone buy BF4 instead of 2042. Would you rather pay 110 dollars for a game that feels like it is still in beta stages, with half the features that made battlefield more enjoyable than CoD stripped away from the game? Or would you rather spend 0-15 dollars on BF4 full premium depending on sales going on at the time, for a game that is completed, balanced, still has a reasonably active community, and still has our beloved features (rush, hardcore, GM, etc)?
I refunded my bf2042 until I see patch notes seeing these things corrected and recommend to all my friends that they avoid it for now. But I honestly hope the EA/DICE Devs see the comments and criticism from the fans who have been with them for over a decade and give us the power to make our game modes the way they were back in the day. You know, the way they are literally marketing it as. I would much rather be playing a next gen battlefield with the promised features that should make it the best battlefield since Bad Company 2, rather than having to play an eight year old game because it actually has the features I have grown to love.
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