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@plfrost22 As far as the MBolte being as very armored I'd have to disagree. We're playing battlefield here, not call of duty. Armored vehicles such as that should retain some sort of armor rating. We shouldn't have armor vehicles on battlefield that are point, click, destroy. I'm sorry but that shouldn't be that way. When the hovercraft was as armored as it was for the vehicle it is, that was an instance where a vehicle armor rating wasn't matching what the vehicle was.

Likewise for the distance that the rounds travel in regards to AA vs Air or the effective range for the soflam. Mirroring real life aspects of functionality is what sets battlefield apart from point and click shooters like call of duty. When you start to manipulate the effectiveness of properly armored vehicles or setting unrealistic range for certain things to match what players personal wants are takes away from the fight, the battle that you are tasked with when fighting certain vehicles.

@Psubond You have to factor in the aspect that certain things like this are possible in reality and this is battlefield, you should have the aspect that a vehicle such as an Apache can sit at a range greater than that in which a soldier can effectively counter. That's where other air vehicles play their role.

@cso7777 It shouldn't be about lowering the effective rating for vehicle armor and range to match that which someone feels a soldier should be able to counter, if anything a better argument would be to raise the effectiveness of AA Solider loadouts or Anti armor loadouts.

@cso7777 I suppose this factor changes in respect to the console you play on, I've seen on PC the map and vehicle sizes are greater than that of PS4. I've had no trouble countering any vehicle/Solider combination on PS4, just as long as you have the right team who knows how to focus objs or vehicles.

@L0NGSHOT93 I don't know what Dice can do, but the game is not working in its current state and infantry game play is the worst of any BF game.

A lot of this is due to map-design. But knowing Dice, they will not redesign the maps, so the only solution is limiting vehicles and making them either weaker, much easier to counter or reduce their numbers.

And things like the current M5C doesn't work in a BF game, no matter what. Having that mobility and firepower is a total joke when playing against infantry.

@cso7777 See I think that a positive change in the effectiveness of soldiers with AA or Anti Armor loadouts would change this all together, you factor teamwork in with the proper focus fire on vehicles, it's almost as if there are no vehicles.

@cso7777 See the balance on PS4 seems right, but we do have 64 players, but take into mind the maps are smaller for the 64 player vs PC 128 player. Y'all have larger maps then us.