Helicopter gameplay is near damn impossible
Hi. It's really getting out of hand. It's too spammy. Best i've had 4 TV dodge at once but eventually i loose to them cause i has nowhere to go, i can't counter cause person(s) that use, is hidden. ...
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@-AC-Ju5t1ce wrote:@l_Grand_Vizir_l
Dude, join Silk discord if you link him as the best one. His opinion is that heli is close to unplayable on any decent server if multiple Lis are shooting at you. Also, since you don't know anything about helis and it shows with your comments like "i won't pretend to be a very good pilot, average i'd say." - why bother posting your inexperienced opinion?
PS - you can check OP stats and decide how good he is as well. It doesn't have anything to do with helis being weak compared to previous BFs at this current point though.
PPS - also, why don't you open your stats for us to verify your game experience and skill? Afraid?
You know, infantry is unplayable if multiple vehicles shoot at you. Armor is unplayable if multiple air are shooting at you.
So why should air get a break? The expectation that a game with 32-64 opponents and only 1 gets to engage you is a completely moronic expectation. It just shows the entitlement attitude with gaming.
Oh and for the record as someone who finally T1'd Lis, if youre dying to Lis, accelerate and you wont. Turn and you wont. Adjust pitch, go higher. The Lis rocket is the easiest things to avoid. Fly around a building, out of bounds.
Now after about 300 kills, I learned the pattern of pilots and planned my rockets accordingly. I began to down Tbirds and Stealths which are one hits. Not because they are easy, but because the pilots have enjoyed such an easy time of it, they became lazy pilots.
LOL, multiple Lis. That was hilarious. Hey everybody, the air pilot who has unlimited ammo and rockets thinks its unfair to team up on them.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
@Padding_Ur_Stats It is such a drag to practice the liz rockets with the amount of waiting involved in their reload.
@UP_Hawxxeye wrote:
@Padding_Ur_StatsIt is such a drag to practice the liz rockets with the amount of waiting involved in their reload.bots...but yeah, it sucks
OK, I put together a couple of clips I took today. Here's the breakdown:
AA Runs
1. Shot one - shooting at a Stealth, he flares, then flips into stealth mode, drops bombs and hauls it out to safety.
2. Shot two - same stealth on his way back from regenning flares. He flares this shot.
3. Shot three - same stealth after he flared. I'm surprised I got this shot in as he was trying to hide in the rocks but wasn't low enough AND he was far away. (this just proves the buff to AA wasn't good enough. I do get a hit, but not a kill as no one else was shooting at him. Watch after the hit and you'll see him skulking around in the OOB regenning.
4. Shot four - Two things here. Number one, I was able to lock on through the tree which is surprising. Maybe that got fixed?? But after the shot, notice the stealth just slips into stealth and runs and I never get a hit.
5. The last sequence is the Stealth finally getting tired of me making him run. I thought he was going to come out of stealth because he didn't have a gunner, but turns out he did. You can see at the end, he drops bombs and then comes out of stealth as his gunner gets me.
CONCLUSION: A single person can barely get a hit on a Stealth with an AA. Even if two or even three of us were shooting at him, he probably would have survived. I think the one sequence where I actually get a hit, we could have gotten him ONLY if we all could have locked on and fired.
Lis TV Missile Runs
1. Shot one - Stealth just flat outruns the missile. Who said they couldn't outrun the thing???
2. Shot two - Originally I fired at the Hind, but the Stealth was closer. He easily jinks the missile. Believe me I was yanking and banking the mouse. I have a 16" up/down and 24" side to side mousepad. I was using ALL of it...How maneuverable is that thing again?
3. Shot three - I almost fired at the Stealth but it was going over the mountain. Notice the Hind when I fire IMMEDIATELY changes direction and starts jinking. He damn near outruns the missile flat out but finally just out jinks how quickly I can move. Again, I'm yanking and banking with 2 FEET of mousepad here...
4. Shot four - Fire at the Hind again and he just simply jinks at the last second. I can't turn around quick enough.
CONCLUSION: I'm not sure who thinks this missile is maneuvering like a stealth or little bird, but I'd like to see another video where it's doing it. And a chopper can most certainly outrun the thing. I wouldn't even bother firing it at a jet. You'd be hard pressed to get a consistent solid hit on a chopper with Lis.
Granted these pilots were pretty good, but that's the point...you AREN'T supposed to just sit still and farm away at the infantry. If you do that, yeah you'll get pummeled by both AA and TV missiles. But any amount of competency will overwhealm two or even three players shooting at you and that's bordering on OP. Not quite, but bordering. A really good pilot is going to run circles around these. ONLY if the other team has three or four good players who know how to box in, can the thing be taken down easily.
So where are the videos showing how EASY it is to hit with a Lis Missile?
@Echo6Echo wrote:OK, I put together a couple of clips I took today. Here's the breakdown:
AA Runs
1. Shot one - shooting at a Stealth, he flares, then flips into stealth mode, drops bombs and hauls it out to safety.
2. Shot two - same stealth on his way back from regenning flares. He flares this shot.
3. Shot three - same stealth after he flared. I'm surprised I got this shot in as he was trying to hide in the rocks but wasn't low enough AND he was far away. (this just proves the buff to AA wasn't good enough. I do get a hit, but not a kill as no one else was shooting at him. Watch after the hit and you'll see him skulking around in the OOB regenning.
4. Shot four - Two things here. Number one, I was able to lock on through the tree which is surprising. Maybe that got fixed?? But after the shot, notice the stealth just slips into stealth and runs and I never get a hit.
5. The last sequence is the Stealth finally getting tired of me making him run. I thought he was going to come out of stealth because he didn't have a gunner, but turns out he did. You can see at the end, he drops bombs and then comes out of stealth as his gunner gets me.
CONCLUSION: A single person can barely get a hit on a Stealth with an AA. Even if two or even three of us were shooting at him, he probably would have survived. I think the one sequence where I actually get a hit, we could have gotten him ONLY if we all could have locked on and fired.
Lis TV Missile Runs
1. Shot one - Stealth just flat outruns the missile. Who said they couldn't outrun the thing???
2. Shot two - Originally I fired at the Hind, but the Stealth was closer. He easily jinks the missile. Believe me I was yanking and banking the mouse. I have a 16" up/down and 24" side to side mousepad. I was using ALL of it...How maneuverable is that thing again?
3. Shot three - I almost fired at the Stealth but it was going over the mountain. Notice the Hind when I fire IMMEDIATELY changes direction and starts jinking. He damn near outruns the missile flat out but finally just out jinks how quickly I can move. Again, I'm yanking and banking with 2 FEET of mousepad here...
4. Shot four - Fire at the Hind again and he just simply jinks at the last second. I can't turn around quick enough.
CONCLUSION: I'm not sure who thinks this missile is maneuvering like a stealth or little bird, but I'd like to see another video where it's doing it. And a chopper can most certainly outrun the thing. I wouldn't even bother firing it at a jet. You'd be hard pressed to get a consistent solid hit on a chopper with Lis.
Granted these pilots were pretty good, but that's the point...you AREN'T supposed to just sit still and farm away at the infantry. If you do that, yeah you'll get pummeled by both AA and TV missiles. But any amount of competency will overwhealm two or even three players shooting at you and that's bordering on OP. Not quite, but bordering. A really good pilot is going to run circles around these. ONLY if the other team has three or four good players who know how to box in, can the thing be taken down easily.
So where are the videos showing how EASY it is to hit with a Lis Missile?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjCB0IcRc6U
You can't camp on a hill stinger or guided rocket with unlimited ammo and clear the air? Actually you did do that because the helicopter ran away. What exactly are you trying to say? It's not fair that I didn't get an easy lock-on kill? That it's too hard for an infantry player with a guided rocket unlimited ammo to solo kill an helicopter? What a joke.
@Echo6Echo wrote:
@UP_Hawxxeye wrote:
@Padding_Ur_StatsIt is such a drag to practice the liz rockets with the amount of waiting involved in their reload.bots...but yeah, it sucks
I doubt that any bots will fly anywhere near what humans fly like
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