Taken as said that the game we played could be a long way from the final product (as I think we are all hoping), but I have been thinking and posting about how the intelligence of the bots is critical if the game is going to work. A squad made mostly of bots still needs to support the human players in the squad and be fighting on behalf of the team. They just cant be wandering around the map aimlessly and they need to be worth the points when you kill them if BF is not going to turn into a turkey shoot.So, when I spawned next to a couple of bots (not in my squad) at the back of the main building at C2 I thought I would hang back and just watch them for a while. One stood with his back against the wall, periodically stepping forwards and backwards a little. The other was keen to share ammo and repeatedly ran off a little then looped back and threw ammo down, over and over.They were still at it when I wandered off.Hardly contributing to their team or the game.

Pretty much free kills in the beta.Though i did get teambagged by a friendly one while it tried to rez me and kept breaking the animation until i timed out, so bonus points for that?

@lzilchetlDumb as rocks. No one would confuse them for anything else.Now, there are difficulty levels to them and some of them are straight hacklords... but I think most people agree that they need an upgrade.

@lzilchetl wrote: @kregora wrote: @carsono311 wrote: @lzilchetlDumb as rocks. No one would confuse them for anything else.Now, there are difficulty levels to them and some of them are straight hacklords... but I think most people agree that they need an upgrade. Sometimes they behave like the annoying players. eg. While you sit in the gunner seat of an ITV to cover an attack on an objective, jump on the driver seat and drive away. Ha! I seat switched in an osprey and was waiting to drop down to drift to the target when one took the pilot seat and flew me off! I'm easily confused - wondered what had just happened! @lzilchetl You got lucky - I switched seats accidentally and the person who took over the heli smashed it in to the ground. Unfortunately they weren't a bot 🤣

@lzilchetl If I recall correctly, the ones for the Tech Test were marked as being mercilessSo, there seems to be different difficulties, we were just playing against the easy ones

@ElliotLH A random setting...Imagine how hilarious it would be to see a merciless bot being obliterated by the bad driving of its coop noob bot

How clever do we think the AI Bots were in the beta?

28 Replies

carsono311
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@lzilchetlDumb as rocks. No one would confuse them for anything else.

Now, there are difficulty levels to them and some of them are straight hacklords... but I think most people agree that they need an upgrade.
OskooI_007
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
DICE isn't going to upgrade the bots with actual machine learning artificial intelligence like the bots in EA's SEED AI program, because that would explode their server hosting costs due to needing extremely more expensive server hardware that has machine learning acceleration.
So all DICE can do with the script bots currently in the game is turn their difficulty up until they turn into aimbots, or lower their difficulty until they're dumb as a rock.
Even if BF2042 did have machine learning AI bots in the game, I still wouldn't want to play against them. I'm a strictly human vs human type player.
lzilchetl
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@carsono311True, I did see some more competent bots and understand the need for levels (to mimic real players), but really, wimping out at the edge of the map is way below the threshold. I did go and try pushing them around a little but they didn't want to shift. Mind you, there is always the chance that i made a mistake and they were a couple of real players stats padding! (just reminded myself how easy it was to p players off when you accidentally joined a stats padding server in BF2 and started to shoot! Ha! Forgotten about that!)

I know its going to be alright and we are going to have some fun, but cant help the sinking feeling that we may not be as inspired as I thought I might.
TAYTER-GUN
4 years ago
They would sometimes take vehicles and get stuck against walls etc, theyre a useless addition to say the least.
kregora
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@carsono311 wrote:
@lzilchetlDumb as rocks. No one would confuse them for anything else.

Now, there are difficulty levels to them and some of them are straight hacklords... but I think most people agree that they need an upgrade.
Sometimes they behave like the annoying players. eg. While you sit in the gunner seat of an ITV to cover an attack on an objective, jump on the driver seat and drive away.
ElliotLH
Hero+
4 years ago
Didn't find them to be all that smart in the open beta but they may have been toned down intentionally.
lzilchetl
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@kregora wrote:
@carsono311 wrote:
@lzilchetlDumb as rocks. No one would confuse them for anything else.

Now, there are difficulty levels to them and some of them are straight hacklords... but I think most people agree that they need an upgrade.
Sometimes they behave like the annoying players. eg. While you sit in the gunner seat of an ITV to cover an attack on an objective, jump on the driver seat and drive away.
Ha! I seat switched in an osprey and was waiting to drop down to drift to the target when one took the pilot seat and flew me off! I'm easily confused - wondered what had just happened!
Fringerunner
4 years ago
Pretty much free kills in the beta.
Though i did get teambagged by a friendly one while it tried to rez me and kept breaking the animation until i timed out, so bonus points for that?
ElliotLH
Hero+
4 years ago
@lzilchetl wrote:

@kregora wrote:

@carsono311 wrote:

@lzilchetlDumb as rocks. No one would confuse them for anything else.

Now, there are difficulty levels to them and some of them are straight hacklords... but I think most people agree that they need an upgrade.

Sometimes they behave like the annoying players. eg. While you sit in the gunner seat of an ITV to cover an attack on an objective, jump on the driver seat and drive away.

Ha! I seat switched in an osprey and was waiting to drop down to drift to the target when one took the pilot seat and flew me off! I'm easily confused - wondered what had just happened!

@lzilchetl You got lucky - I switched seats accidentally and the person who took over the heli smashed it in to the ground. Unfortunately they weren't a bot 🤣
LJBattlefield
4 years ago
@lzilchetl They're about as clever as the Titanfall 2 AI multiplayer fodder bots. Which I imagine their code is based on.

You want to see BF AI with potential, go check out BF3 Venice Unleashed Funbots.