@Skill4Reel Balanced needs to be done before the round starts not at the end of a round. Switching to be with platoon just makes it worse.
It seems a few of us are sick of platoon players abuse.
1) these are public servers for all, not platoon training (more like trolling) grounds.
2) you just blamed solo for playing different. OMG your using 3rd party comms to bully others trying to have fun and their to blame.
Trying to keeping platoons has been part of the biggest imbalance in the game. DICE used a squad swap balance at end of round just kept the imbalance. Because squad 1 and squad 2 end the rounds usually as 1st and 3rd, while squad A finished 2nd staying on the opposite team.
I have heard the same excuse for years platoon are just friends want to play on the same team. It is solo players fault they lose because they don't work as a team which is a load of steamy rubbish.
DICE you are to blame, for years you listen to these so called platoons (removed commander,spot....) and made comms more 3rd party popular, this is way solo players don't work as a team because there is NO easy to use in game communication.
No one has stop platoons from playing together but platoon player instead blame others, whinge about unfairness and think they are the only ones that want fun.
@DingoKillrI hate to say it, but this all really sounds like you hate playing against a coordinated team and prefer playing solo most of the time.
Playing solo is fine of course, but from the beginning, Battlefield has encouraged team-play. In most games, as well as any real endeavor, well coordinated teams can accomplish more, and more quickly, than any individual.
I think keeping teams together is perfectly fine and preferable even. I would not want my group of friends, whether we are successful in-game or not, immediately broken up because the team balancer cannot match us against other teams easily. I would even wait longer for a match in that case, rather than be broken up.
As for 3rd party comms, that is what it is. Some people will prefer Discord to in-game VOIP. EA DICE is extremely limited on what they can do about that.
@carsono311 wrote:@DingoKillrI hate to say it, but this all really sounds like you hate playing against a coordinated team and prefer playing solo most of the time.
Playing solo is fine of course, but from the beginning, Battlefield has encouraged team-play. In most games, as well as any real endeavor, well coordinated teams can accomplish more, and more quickly, than any individual.
I think keeping teams together is perfectly fine and preferable even. I would not want my group of friends, whether we are successful in-game or not, immediately broken up because the team balancer cannot match us against other teams easily. I would even wait longer for a match in that case, rather than be broken up.
As for 3rd party comms, that is what it is. Some people will prefer Discord to in-game VOIP. EA DICE is extremely limited on what they can do about that.
Completely agree. I wouldn't have played BFV fpr 600 hours, if it wasn't for me and my mates. We are not even tryhards, we just play as a team and welcome every random. Most annoying thing is to get swapped in different teams and to reload the round, because you have to queue again.
Everyone can just get on a discord or here in the forums and find some mates to play with. It is really not that hard. If players don't want to do that, they should not complain about players playing as a team. Sounds hard, but a lot of randoms are useless anyways. You don't even need to communicate, just stick together as a squad and follow the orders from the squad leader. It really hurts seeing randoms in my squad, when me and my 2 mates or all Top 5 on the scoreboard, but the random is doing his own thing instead of just playing with us.
Which is why we need a internal NOT SHOWN skill ranking to be able to open a "Clansquad" up to 64 people and be matched against a little bit lower, same skill or alittle bit higher skilled players in BF2042.
But thats what the community also doesnt seem to want.
I wonder why it is working in CS GO (as example) for years having a skill group and finding enemys with the same skilllevel.
@TickTack121 wrote:
@carsono311 wrote:@DingoKillrI hate to say it, but this all really sounds like you hate playing against a coordinated team and prefer playing solo most of the time.
Playing solo is fine of course, but from the beginning, Battlefield has encouraged team-play. In most games, as well as any real endeavor, well coordinated teams can accomplish more, and more quickly, than any individual.
I think keeping teams together is perfectly fine and preferable even. I would not want my group of friends, whether we are successful in-game or not, immediately broken up because the team balancer cannot match us against other teams easily. I would even wait longer for a match in that case, rather than be broken up.
As for 3rd party comms, that is what it is. Some people will prefer Discord to in-game VOIP. EA DICE is extremely limited on what they can do about that.Completely agree. I wouldn't have played BFV fpr 600 hours, if it wasn't for me and my mates. We are not even tryhards, we just play as a team and welcome every random. Most annoying thing is to get swapped in different teams and to reload the round, because you have to queue again.
Everyone can just get on a discord or here in the forums and find some mates to play with. It is really not that hard. If players don't want to do that, they should not complain about players playing as a team. Sounds hard, but a lot of randoms are useless anyways. You don't even need to communicate, just stick together as a squad and follow the orders from the squad leader. It really hurts seeing randoms in my squad, when me and my 2 mates or all Top 5 on the scoreboard, but the random is doing his own thing instead of just playing with us.
Anything in BF4 can become “overpowered” if teamwork is involved.
And that is what makes the game great! 😃
@DingoKillr wrote:
@TickTack121you miss the point.
The complaint was not about team play.
You are acting like so many player on 3rd party comms thinking you a better team player and you should have rights over solo or randoms. Why what makes you better?
This thread is about fair balancing teams and for me DICE needs to stop making excuses of not providing in game comms while claiming BF is a team game.
I am not better by using "3rd party comms" but we are better by just sticking together. We don't even talk that much. It is more about swearing, complaining and some small talk. We are not even tryhards or something, no one complains, if someone can't compete with the better players. All that matters is that you at least try to play as a squad. In game voice comms are unnecessary, because you just don't need them. Everything is already there just like @Skill4Reel said.
If the game would let us switch team, we would move regularly if other "organized" squads are on out side. But thanks to Dice, that is not possible. There are also rounds, where you got 2 full platoons on a side, but it doesn't help, because the rest of the team stays in "no mans land" between the flags. This game is really not that complex. If you want to camp, then just do it next to a flag.
@carsono311 wrote:@DingoKillrI hate to say it, but this all really sounds like you hate playing against a coordinated team and prefer playing solo most of the time.
Playing solo is fine of course, but from the beginning, Battlefield has encouraged team-play. In most games, as well as any real endeavor, well coordinated teams can accomplish more, and more quickly, than any individual.
I think keeping teams together is perfectly fine and preferable even. I would not want my group of friends, whether we are successful in-game or not, immediately broken up because the team balancer cannot match us against other teams easily. I would even wait longer for a match in that case, rather than be broken up.
As for 3rd party comms, that is what it is. Some people will prefer Discord to in-game VOIP. EA DICE is extremely limited on what they can do about that.
@carsono311 Then you opinion of me is wrong.
You ask me if I want team play, while you want your friends together so you can rampage over everyone else and call that team play. There is more to team then your friends. .
My point about in games comms is not Voip there are other ways which DICE have ignored.
