@carsono311 wrote:@DingoKillrI hate to say it, but this all really sounds like you hate playing against a coordinated team and prefer playing solo most of the time.
Playing solo is fine of course, but from the beginning, Battlefield has encouraged team-play. In most games, as well as any real endeavor, well coordinated teams can accomplish more, and more quickly, than any individual.
I think keeping teams together is perfectly fine and preferable even. I would not want my group of friends, whether we are successful in-game or not, immediately broken up because the team balancer cannot match us against other teams easily. I would even wait longer for a match in that case, rather than be broken up.
As for 3rd party comms, that is what it is. Some people will prefer Discord to in-game VOIP. EA DICE is extremely limited on what they can do about that.
Completely agree. I wouldn't have played BFV fpr 600 hours, if it wasn't for me and my mates. We are not even tryhards, we just play as a team and welcome every random. Most annoying thing is to get swapped in different teams and to reload the round, because you have to queue again.
Everyone can just get on a discord or here in the forums and find some mates to play with. It is really not that hard. If players don't want to do that, they should not complain about players playing as a team. Sounds hard, but a lot of randoms are useless anyways. You don't even need to communicate, just stick together as a squad and follow the orders from the squad leader. It really hurts seeing randoms in my squad, when me and my 2 mates or all Top 5 on the scoreboard, but the random is doing his own thing instead of just playing with us.
@DingoKillr wrote:
@TickTack121you miss the point.
The complaint was not about team play.
You are acting like so many player on 3rd party comms thinking you a better team player and you should have rights over solo or randoms. Why what makes you better?
This thread is about fair balancing teams and for me DICE needs to stop making excuses of not providing in game comms while claiming BF is a team game.
I am not better by using "3rd party comms" but we are better by just sticking together. We don't even talk that much. It is more about swearing, complaining and some small talk. We are not even tryhards or something, no one complains, if someone can't compete with the better players. All that matters is that you at least try to play as a squad. In game voice comms are unnecessary, because you just don't need them. Everything is already there just like @Skill4Reel said.
If the game would let us switch team, we would move regularly if other "organized" squads are on out side. But thanks to Dice, that is not possible. There are also rounds, where you got 2 full platoons on a side, but it doesn't help, because the rest of the team stays in "no mans land" between the flags. This game is really not that complex. If you want to camp, then just do it next to a flag.
@DingoKillr wrote:
@TickTack121just stick together. 555.
That is funny just because your a platoon we need to follow you. Guess what maybe sometime platoons should follow others. You guys are acting like that platoons are the only ones that know how to play. Well you are wrong.
OMG players are between flags so they are bad. What is wrong with you.
Team play is not zerg flag run. Yet this what you and others asking for.
If BF is a team game some players are going to be attacking flags, some are defending flags, some are moving to attack or defend and some are going to be place that are going to do more for team play then you wish to believe.
Team play is not about platoons. After reading the comments here about how platoons players think of others. With that attitude DICE should have Start of Round individual shuffle.
No one in the whole team needs to "follow" me. But if 3 dudes in the squad are moving towards Bravo, why would you go to charlie? I didnt want to trigger your hate against "platoons" we can also just call them "my origin friend list". I don't want to attack you, but maybe you should just try what i am talking about.
I don't do "zerg flag runs", i don't camp i am just attacking / defending whatever me and my mates think is the best flag right now. If half of the team is capping one single flag, you just don't need to be there, because you will loose every other flag. Doesn't sound like a good trade, as this game is all about owning the most flags.
I didn't say anything about players between flags at all, i called some specific type of player: The one that never sees a flag, because he is sitting in no mans land all the time. There is just no need to do that. All i am saying is that the game actually provides anything to play as a team. You don't have to talk, you can ping, you can give squad orders, you can revive, everyone sees when you need health / ammo.
Again it is exactly like @Skill4Reel said, there are and will always be players, that just don't care about teamplay or squadplay. I don't want Dice to listen to them, because then i could play COD. I don't play in a "platoon" because i want to dominate everything, i play with some nice people, because it is fun to play with them.
