This guy casually kills 2 condors, 1 apache, and 1 tank in 3 minutes. Won't be long before people start mass complaining about them even though there is only 1 attack vehicle slot now lol. I personally think they're very fun and should be left alone but they do make the Nightbird and Hokum/Apache obsolete.

Let me start of by saying that I accept all the hate I will get, and I agree with arguments for nerfing stealth helis.However I think there are smarter ways to nerf them outside of a mandatory 30mm nerf. Try to read my reasoning but tldr is at the bottom. For reference I have played helis since Bad Company 2 Apache and Huey days. I will not be playing stealth helis anymore cause I want Huey to remain my no1 kill vehicle. Most of the arguments I see on 30mm are amazing. Its just plain stupid, together with anti-tank rocket in one match I had over 22 vehicle kills and almost 18k vehicle damage. When playing as infantry (and I do that quite a lot I have some T1 weapons also) I hate being killed by it and as a pilot, it doesnt feel at least rewarding outside helping my team a lot.Problem is that anyone can use it. Unlike first gun you unlock, 30mm doesnt need any high skill and most average pilots who just finished learning how to fly can shread anything with it. Easy fix would be to lower its splash-damage and to make it heat-up much faster. I would say a good amount is the one 30mm on russian KA heli has. On topic of lock-ons and Rao. Let me start of by saying that as both pilot and infantry, it feels much better to be taken down or to take down a heli with new TV rocket. **Because unlike lock-ons it requires skill.**Rao is fine as it is, as a team with only 2 or more good Raos and few lock-ons can completly shread my influence on an enemy team. Without good enemy Rao I had over 100 kills on B64. With good Raos or Wildcat (which is super strong if you are good tankist and force helis into bad situations) my kills drop to 30ish to 40ish and that is something I can almost always achive as an infantry player. However, while Rao is in a rly good spot, lock ons should get a serious rework. Let me state that I too hate camping helis who fly too high up and just drop bombs or spam 50mm on Hind. These are bad players who contribute nothing to attacking team and ruin games for defending team.MOST IMPORTANT THING in this post is ruining that playstyle. Lock-ons should get buffed by allowing them to go to the limit of the skybox.But, they should also not work up until the height of maybe 15 meters. This way you are forcing heli pilots to choose between 2 things. Either get destroyed by lock ons and Rao(who should also be able to hack high altitude stealth helis (not planes or other helis just stealth mode) or use skill to fly low to the ground and try to evade swarms of TV and normal RPGs.This way, you are forcing pilots to stay in Gustav range, while also allowing highly skilled pilots to help their team.Vehicles should require a squad and/or a lot of skill to handle properly. Stealth heli is nothing like that. Last but not least, separte at least planes in their own category. When good plane pilot is around only the best pilots can bearly survive. Thank you if you tried to read all of it, and not just spew hate on vehicle players. Vehicles are integral part of Battlefield and they should be strong in the right hands. However that should take much more skill than it takes now. tldr: -Serious nerf to 30mm: both in splash and cooldown-Buff to height lock-ons can target helis-Buff to Rao being able to hack high altitude transport and stealth-Nerf to lock ons by making them not being able to target rly low flying helis (this forces pilot to either die or be more skillful)-Indirect buff to gustav and tv by forcing pilots to fly lower-Separate airplanes into own category so they can counter other air vehicles My apologies for gramatical mistakes as English is not my primary language 🙂Enjoy playing the game and PTFO.

Guy just did 71-1 on noshahr in the stealth heliCompletely dominated the map.WTH is wrong with EA/DICE.Just take it out until its fixed.

If your objective is to destroy the average infantry player experience on one of the best maps of the franchise, mission accomplished. One would surmise that anyone with the most basic understanding of the current state of the game would know that one stealth helo per map is obscenely overpowered. With that knowledge on board, someone being paid a decent salary decides to make three available per team. Then someone in a management position gives the okay on this design decision. DICE has totally ruined Exodus Conquest for a vast majority of players. I often played Exodus Conq as well as Flashback Conq and both game modes ….WERE… a really nice change of pace. However now Exodus Conq is absolutely terrible with 3 stealth helo per team. The opening two minutes one team gains total air superiority and we end up seeing one team with no air and the other team with 3 stealth helos plus Hind/Condors the entire rest of the match. The ensuing slaughter is like nothing seen in any Battlefield game. It’s enraging for the team being farmed and is yet another 2042 detractor that’s bleeding players. The classic maps are infinitely more enjoyable with classic vehicle types and numbers. All we need are the Specialists on the classic Conquest maps for a nice variety. Any classic map with 2042 aircraft is utterly ruined. If it’s not glaringly obvious, the 2042 vehicle types and vehicle numbers formula since launch has been, by any quantifiable measurement, a historic failure. Stop trying to reinvent the wheel. It’s not working.

@Zhukov211 DICE: We playtest our changes first.Also DICE: Here's a change that doesn't appear to have gone through any playtesting and is designed to make the experience unenjoyable, because we've ignored the months of complaints about overpowered helicopters, especially the stealth helicopter we brilliantly added to the game.*dances off singing You're Welcome*

@lionking7001 yes they are still powerful imho they need to remove the flairs so that there is only one defence mechanism not two

How long before DICE nerfs the new stealth helicopters?

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UP_Hawxxeye
Legend
4 years ago
@ATFGunr wrote:
@Captain_TachiIt’s been almost 2 months and CRICKETS from Dice, they must be flying to ignore this issue.
If they were flying they would know how broken it is.
I do not think they do, at least those who call the shots
doubleome
4 years ago
Since the introduction of this helo anything I take off into the air with just melts in litteral seconds (not exagerated) vs the stealth helo with zero counters. While before air combat was fun. How are people doing this with the stealth helo? No matter the gun I use on the stealth helo I cannot melt other helo's.
Used to be the trick to sneak up close to other helos with the little bird to get the drop and kill them before they could turn their heavy guns. But not so much the stealth helo, bullets just bounce off and the 30mm on the little bird isn’t anywhere near as powerful makes no sense.
Anobix
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@doubleome the little bird is effectively worthless versus it, it loses in terms of health, armor, and potential damage output (especially if the stealth has a gunner too).

The attack/apache chopper _can_ win if they have a good pilot and gunner, but honestly you never seen one because why would you in most circumstances. The transports, ironically, can actually hold their own well enough if they have competent gunners, especially with the miniguns. Now with the next nerf to the Condor/Hind 50mm that may change a lot, but I find that if you have two miniguns on pretty much anything in the air it falls pretty quickly.
MaddoggMiranda
4 years ago
FIX THE DAMN STEALTH CHOPPERS, THE NERF (WASNT A NERF) Cool DOWN has done 0 to the Over Effectiveness of the chopper 4 times trying to take it down with Wildcat it just spams me with cannons and rockets and i die every single time the guy flying had 0 deaths and 72 kills, Any game you join Breakthrough been the worst... The Stealth Chopper racks up ridiculous amounts of kills, You cant even missile lock it half the time and when you do it just runs to other side of map then comes back for another go. JUST NERF THE CANNONS DAMAGE LIKE YOU DID WITH THE OTHER HELI's ITS TOO OP!
Zhukov211
4 years ago
@MaddoggMirandaThis was a no brainer. Everyone that’s honest about the state of the game and that plays the game daily knows full well simply nerfing the 30mm cool down was a laughable, half hearted attempt of fixing the stealth helos.

So now, like with the laughable, half hearted nerfs of the Hind and Condor, we must endure yet more weeks and months of being farmed by stealth helos.

No change to Stealth helo meta and Hind/Condor meta is relatively unchanged with 40mm spam and still more durability and insane survivability when compared to tanks.
MaddoggMiranda
4 years ago
@Zhukov211 It’s like do they even test there needs before releasing? Because if they played 1 round of breakthrough they would soon realise it’s not enough! @EA_Atic moved my post inboxes me warning me for tagging, How about inbox your Devs tell them to fix the choppers already it’s beyond a joke!
Psubond
4 years ago
@MaddoggMiranda wrote:
FIX THE DAMN STEALTH CHOPPERS, THE NERF (WASNT A NERF) Cool DOWN has done 0 to the Over Effectiveness of the chopper 4 times trying to take it down with Wildcat it just spams me with cannons and rockets and i die every single time the guy flying had 0 deaths and 72 kills, Any game you join Breakthrough been the worst... The Stealth Chopper racks up ridiculous amounts of kills, You cant even missile lock it half the time and when you do it just runs to other side of map then comes back for another go. JUST NERF THE CANNONS DAMAGE LIKE YOU DID WITH THE OTHER HELI's ITS TOO OP!
i am going to start hanging out by the wildcat as rao. when stealth helo comes in for a strafing run i'm going to hack his * and pop a stinger for good measure and hopefully the wildcat finishes him (since stealth helo gets flares and stealth you can only get one missile off unless the pilot is stupid)
UP_Hawxxeye
Legend
4 years ago
@PsubondThe problem is how these slippery busters fly low and hide out of sight. Especially with that stupid wall in Renewal
Adamonic
Legend
4 years ago
@Psubond It won't matter lol. It is still OP, maybe not close your eyes ridiculously OP. Now instead of 10 kills per run, it is 8. That is basically the nerf.

Still pretty much hosed on BT without defender air assets.
Psubond
4 years ago
@Adamonic wrote:
@PsubondIt won't matter lol. It is still OP, maybe not close your eyes ridiculously OP. Now instead of 10 kills per run, it is 8. That is basically the nerf.

Still pretty much hosed on BT without defender air assets.
agreed, but i am willing to sacrifice my exp to make life miserable for helo pilots. if i can enrage them enough to keep coming after me then my teammates can attack the objectives without getting obliterated. (i am good at being a complete irritant to pilots...i may not kill them but i make their life very difficult and i've made a bunch rage quit and go find a map they can go ham on. the hate mail is extra tasty)

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