Currently in BFV, a squad of 4 coordinated experienced players is able to easily turn the tides of the game when the opposite side solely consists of random players. That would make the game quickly lose fun for random players and end up lopsided.Will there be any improvements on this side in BF2024?

@BinaryNinja no it wont... BF is a teamorientated game and encourages to team up and dominate the game.Can I change the question around: Why wont you start playing together with other players?Worst case scenario is you will be meeting players from different places and have fun...

@DeathRaven_1983 wrote:Currently in BFV, a squad of 4 coordinated experienced players is able to easily turn the tides of the game when the opposite side solely consists of random players. That would make the game quickly lose fun for random players and end up lopsided.Will there be any improvements on this side in BF2024?Why should DICE do anything that stops friends playing together?

@DeathRaven_1983 The problem is not the game or the "team balancer" in general, the Problem is YOU (probably Playstyle) and probably mostly your TEAM.Battlefield is a "TEAM"-based arcade like shooter with a "Battlefield-themed" Sandbox.EA/DICE also implemented a "Clan/Platoon" System.A Platoon plays together or if they want to against each other but mostly they will and want to play together.That's the "reason" because "Platoons" exist in general.So if people like me want to play with 12+ people on one site in a "Party-System" on an official DICE server (because on RSP Servers you have to "follow" stupid rules or get's kicked for playing "good") without to play against each other, then it is achieving the mostly whished "Teamplay".Yes, a good Platoon can win rounds, but after a few rounds also the "Platoon" site will loose.We also notice sometimes the opposite effect so even a nearly entire random team can also win, but what I want to say is, as long the Platoon are no strictly "military" organized Platoon where everyone has to follow "Orders" and "Playstyles" , you can also win against Platoon teams when your Team is playing good. Most platoons are "fun" based or "casual" so you don't have to be afraid, play a few rounds against them and you will notice you can also beat them.

@VOLBANKER_PC wrote:A whole clan stacking together on the same team is also problematic because, again, it creates an easy match for the clan members. I do understand the fun in playing together as a clan, it just typically ruins the match for the opponent team.What a clans for if not to do that? I started with BF2 with the =IMPI= clan and have not been in a clan since, we lost our server with BF3 and it all fell away, so I've had a few years joining in on my own or with a few mates here and there. But, to be honest, if I got an invite to join a clan for B2042 I'd take their arm off. You will never know the teamwork and fun that BF has to offer until you do. I really miss it.

it's not toxic, just the devs need to balance things better. It's rare for me to play on a real clan stacked server (3 or 4 full squads) so i think its a small problem. On those very rare occasions i just swap server if things are the same on the next map.

How will DICE deal with clan-stacking inBF2042?

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lzilchetl
Seasoned Ace
5 years ago
I think folk are missing the point that the size of the maps and number of players mean the play is going to different anyway. On a server that is always full and clustered capture flags in zones, we're not gonna get round the map like we are used to if you are working with your squad. A clan of 10 players "invading" the match is not going to have quite the same impact.
How many weeks has it been since the reveal? How many posts have we had about problems with a game no-one has really seen?
lzilchetl
Seasoned Ace
5 years ago
@BASSMEANT_RAW wrote:
this is why we can't have nice things.
Ha! Spot on! Let's all dumb down!
ArchAngeL-PCX
5 years ago
@BinaryNinja I think part of that is due to the fact that it had such a low population until the BF2042 reveal. I don't recall clan stacking being a big deal back in the first couple of years of BF4. Too many people were playing and too many servers were active for it to be a problem.
ArchAngeL-PCX
5 years ago
@DeathRaven_1983 Not sure how you would remedy this. BFV uses matchmaking, so wouldn't you just get matched into a different lobby the next game?

Could be yet another great reason to have a server browser instead and ditch matchmaking all together. That way, if you found yourself on the wrong side of a good team, then you could just leave and join a different server.

There's no real way around this. People play with their friends. If they are good, they are good.

Even back in the Socom 2 days on PS2 this used to happen. You just had to leave and join a different lobby.
VOLBANKER_PC
Seasoned Ace
5 years ago
@BASSMEANT_RAW How mature.
VOLBANKER_PC
Seasoned Ace
5 years ago
@BASSMEANT_RAW You guys aren’t as good as you think you are when you always cling to your 3+ person clan crutch.

- See? You’re not the only one who can make stupid posts…
VOLBANKER_PC
Seasoned Ace
5 years ago
@ArchAngeL-PCX I think that is very true, didn’t think about that before.
Noodlesocks
5 years ago
Squad reviving gave a ton of power to clans in BF5 but in 2042 it seems that everyone can revive everyone else which may make a big difference to the advantage that clans had in BF5.
Jesse165
Seasoned Ace
5 years ago
@CloudMcRip wrote:
@BinaryNinjaIt's not toxic.
Forbidden Clan Tags or emblems are toxic, but Clans and Platoons are not. Even Team Stacking is NOT toxic.
The reason is simple, because Battlefield is a "TEAM based arcade like tactical multiplayer Shooter with a Battlefield themed Sandbox".
So you can't complain about people who are playing the game "correct" because they are playing as a team, playing with friends.
Seriously couldn't have said it any better than this!
BATTLEFIELD has and Always Will Be a TEAM BASED GAME where you do a lot better when you are playing with a good team and communicate with each other just like in the real militaries of the world.
If anyone here can't accept that than perhaps this is not the game for you so STOP trying to ruin the game yourself by turning it into something it never has been and never will be!
Jesse165
Seasoned Ace
5 years ago
BATTLEFIELD has and Always Will Be a TEAM BASED GAME where you do a lot better when you are playing with a good team and communicate with each other just like in the real militaries of the world.
If anyone here can't accept that than perhaps this is not the game for you so STOP trying to ruin the game yourself by turning it into something it never has been and never will be!

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