If EA doesn’t want to “KICK” people
maybe they could rename it “REDEPLOYED”. That probably sounds nicer and won’t hurt feelings. You’ve been redeployed to a new team 👍 (one that doesn’t wanna PTO) Also, why does my tank pull extreme...
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It is really hard to believe how little Dice themselves now understand what are the basic elements of such a core feature like squad management are.Incompetent figures almost finished off the game. They have learned the topic of team building and can lead everything in the world. True, not for long. Until the next project they lead fails.
@flcrm You can be critical of developer/publisher actions and of the direction of the game without insulting the devs. Keep terms like incompetent out of the discussion. Pro-tip, the devs are human so delivery of feedback matters. If your feedback is 100% valid and justified and you deliver it in a nice sandwich of "you're incompetent what were you thinking you should be fired" the devs will likely ignore your feedback. If you deliver your feedback in a measured and neutral tone such as "I saw you made this decision, I disagree and here is a solid a alternative direction that accomplishes your goal of "X"" your feedback is much more likely to be listened to instead of instantly binned. Devs get the negative version of feedback from social media on a constant basis so any time they hear measured feedback it's more likely to be considered.
Just a reminder to the entire thread that attacks against EA Employees and Developers is against both the forum rules https://answers.ea.com/t5/help/faqpage#welcome-user and the EA User agreement under https://www.ea.com/legal/user-agreement Section 6 Rules of Conduct so please avoid doing so.
@ragnarok013 wrote:If your feedback is 100% valid and justified and you deliver it in a nice sandwich of "you're incompetent what were you thinking you should be fired" the devs will likely ignore your feedback. If you deliver your feedback in a measured and neutral tone such as "I saw you made this decision, I disagree and here is a solid a alternative direction that accomplishes your goal of "X"" your feedback is much more likely to be listened to instead of instantly binned.
Agreed to the first part, but strongly disagreed with the second. As has just been proven several times in the VERY recent past.
Regardless of HOW you deliver your feedback, your will be ignored. The difference is not that you will either be 'ignored' or 'listened to', but more likely 'ignored and banned for sustained harassment' vs just 'ignored'.
That is a very sad state of affairs.
@ForumUser
As long as feedback is given properly and in a civil manner, there is always hope that it will reach someone. We can always keep upvoting it and repeating it.Kindness and politeness can be disarming
Meanwhile any misdemeanor will give your detractors grounds to ignore you or even to retaliate against you.
So it is better to either give polite feedback or none at all (apathy can be more powerful than hate in entertainment)@ragnarok013 I wish the game teams would finally realize that the social media are an awful place to hang out and that they should instead return to the relative safety of these official forums like during the good old days
@UP_Hawxxeye wrote:
@ForumUser
As long as feedback is given properly and in a civil manner, there is always hope that it will reach someone. We can always keep upvoting it and repeating it.Kindness and politeness can be disarming
Meanwhile any misdemeanor will give your detractors grounds to ignore you or even to retaliate against you.
So it is better to either give polite feedback or none at all (apathy can be more powerful than hate in entertainment)@ragnarok013 I wish the game teams would finally realize that the social media are an awful place to hang out and that they should instead return to the relative safety of these official forums like during the good old days
@UP_Hawxxeye social media is indeed a double edged sword but I believe that the benefits outweigh the negatives. It allows the devs to interact with the community and even form bonds with them which leads to a more complete and healthy exchange of perspectives and feedback which allows players to see that the devs are humans and are often sympathetic to our requests even if they can't implement our requests for business reasons. It also allows the devs to get to know the community and see that we're not all a bunch of toxic bomb throwers sending them death threats in their DMs and doxxing them online which probably helps them continue on in their job.
Old DICE's forum and social media presence on Battlelog and on Twitter lead to some very awesome interactions and really build the modern "Best Community in the World" as well as friendships, and directly lead to community events like FridayNightBattlefield that has been going on since 2012 when EA_Rick and I founded it after we started playing together for mutual protection against DICE Hunters and our friends started joining us.
- @ragnarok013 well not all social media platforms are equal. I consider Twitter to be the most abusable one with endless horror stories
@ForumUser wrote:
@ragnarok013 wrote:
If your feedback is 100% valid and justified and you deliver it in a nice sandwich of "you're incompetent what were you thinking you should be fired" the devs will likely ignore your feedback. If you deliver your feedback in a measured and neutral tone such as "I saw you made this decision, I disagree and here is a solid a alternative direction that accomplishes your goal of "X"" your feedback is much more likely to be listened to instead of instantly binned.
Agreed to the first part, but strongly disagreed with the second. As has just been proven several times in the VERY recent past.
Regardless of HOW you deliver your feedback, your will be ignored. The difference is not that you will either be 'ignored' or 'listened to', but more likely 'ignored and banned for sustained harassment' vs just 'ignored'.
That is a very sad state of affairs.
@ForumUser I can say 100% that my feedback was taken into account and implemented in this and in previous games so I do know that feedback when properly provided reaches the devs and is considered. Of course not all of my feedback was implemented but enough was to show me that they watch these forums and listen to the players when possible.
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