maybe they could rename it “REDEPLOYED”. That probably sounds nicer and won’t hurt feelings. You’ve been redeployed to a new team 👍 (one that doesn’t wanna PTO)
Also, why does my tank pull extremely hard (left or right) when I switch aim between inside/3rd person view. That’s just whacked up
What I read is, we don't want to hurt someone's feelings because they get booted from a squad so we are not going to allow that option. Instead, we will make it more different for those that want to play together by having you create a new squad with a new reservation system.
What a joke. In all my years/hours playing this series of games I've never felt like the kick system was abused. Add this to the list of things that make us want to quit playing.
oh man, just another example of their incompetence.
[edit] I guess I should try to be constructive.
1. Put players into a public squad if they aren’t already teamed up from previous session and give players the options to create a squad. When creating squad give them option to make it public/private. Private squads should have option to kick/ban people in the squad for management purposes. Or even perhaps, create a sub squad. . It is a private squad after all.
2. if someone’s kicked find a squad for them to join. Perhaps use some intelligence to help pick the best squad. I.e
- squad with similar points per player/avg
- squad with complimentary classes.
- hell, even group any 1 player squads into a squad.
3. To promote clan play, if someone has a clan tag set, perhaps help facilitate clans by putting them clan members into clan squad. I.e [abc]-Alpha-Squad, [abc]-Beea-squad with options for perhaps alternate teams etc.
I dunno, this strikes me of simple thinking and completely out of touch with what battlefield was ever really about. Even less confidence this will ever be a game worth playing again.
They explicitly stated they are not going to allow you to kick people. There are other threads about it.
@Calhoun0 wrote:
I remember exactly how awful Battlefield 2 and Battlefield 2142 were when you could be kicked from a squad. There were always players who refused to PTFO who weren't in squads. Surely, this is because they were kicked from squads, not because they just don't care about PTFO. I should have tried to invite them into my squad more often to help them out, that would have gotten them to PTFO for sure!
You know what would be better than having squadless people not PTFO? Having all those squadless non-contributing players in squads not PTFO, occupying a slot or slots which could go to people who want to PTFO. That way, you've got a half dozen non-cohesive squads instead of a bunch of cohesive, focused squads. This makes sure non-contributing players don't feel left out. They deserve the right to be able to use the other contributing PTFO players in their squad as a spawn point to get them into better or more convenient positions to snipe from, because walking or driving from the uncap or nearest point to find a nice place to camp is just too hard.
You know, the way it is right now.
@Calhoun0 You could be kicked from squad in BF1 and I think in BFV as well so this isn't a request for a return from the old days that we haven't seen since the '00s, it's a current piece of squad management being intentionally left out of a modern game. There are valid reasons to kick people from squad such as he doesn't stick with the squad giving you a 25% penalty to your combat effectiveness, you're friend was coming but the rando beat him to the squad, or he's being toxic and you want him out. There are far more benefits to having a kick feature than drawbacks.
I've seen in chat on a few occasions where losses have been blamed on the number of console players on a team. It seems, to some, that the fewer console players on a team, the better chance a team has of winning.
Putting all my cards on the table, I'll state this--I'm a PS5 console owner that wishes I had not purchased this game.
That having been said, what happens when a team with a majority of PC players looks at the scoreboard and decides that console players are the ones that held the team back? Would the object be to bounce console players off of teams/squads whenever possible?
Actually, the question is rhetorical--I know for sure it would happen.
It's just a matter of how often.
The ability to remove someone from your squad is just basic squad handling that is as necessary as actions such as ability to enter and exit vehicles, open doors etc.
I do understand the explanation DICE gives but come on…how much do we have to cater to people with ultra thin skin.
@VOLBANKER_PC Your logic makes sense, but does not take into account who you're dealing with.
That who deals with every player, be he/she logical or illogical. As just one example, the who refers to those using chat to curse other players or to call them out in what many would consider an irrational manner.
Reality tells me that decisions would be made by some just as I described it, just as I have seen in chat.
Again, it's not a matter of whether it would be done, just a matter of how often.
