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- S3SSioN_SoL2 years agoSeasoned Ace
@Man_iLoveFishing "Fun I deserve"
That right there sums up your argument. You seem to believe it takes skill to shred enemy Jets in less than 2 seconds? Or melt enemy armor with ease, with no regard for danger from lock-ons or enemy TGM's because the crazy maneuverability allows you to dodge all of that with ease. Flares on cool down? Just fly low! Below radar offers unparalleled protection which as a result of the Nightbird's agility, it can easily take advantage of, guaranteeing its survival.
I see people complain about the Tor and I just can't understand why they complain about it. The only map where the Tor is an issue is Hourglass which is soon to be reworked. Furthermore, when the Tor camps they lose the game. Simple really.
You need to examine the "balance" holistically, I have a feeling the only reason why you don't like the Tor is because it can end your 40+ killsteaks from across the map. What if I told you, it takes as much skill to do that as it does to fly the Nightbird lmao, because beyond that the hundreds of hours you reference is just reinforcement for granular precision and consistency just like any other skill. The Nightbird is without a doubt, the easiest the aircraft to fly for many reasons. If anything about the Nightbird gets nerfed, I doubt it will ruin your fun because as I mentioned before, those hundreds of hours are not going to magically disappear, all it means is that the Nightbird will fit within its role better.- Man_iLoveFishing2 years agoSeasoned Ace
@S3SSioN_SoLAre you serious now? This is exactly why we get bad balance of yous. Not understanding tor right? That can reach you from everywhere without any warnings. Don't even bring glint here, I see that glint after my death. And then you complain about bird killing you cause you come in with air radars and then fly around me like flat leaf and wondering why bird obliviates you? Dude please. If you can't kill bird, you have SAME exact vehicle to counter me. Also I've tried jets and it is sweaty fight between bird but I don't fly close to it for exact reason, meanwhile you want to get that bird so badly that you put yourself in front of bitd as "easy target". Also people do mistakes coming straight at me meanwhile jets have advantage for skybox ceiling and don't anticipate. Never gonna say it's easy, it does require skill for sure but not impossible, just use ur vehicle right... You have all that skybox and speed, bigger problem for you is wildcat with lockons.
Edit: About spawncamping, tor is the reason of spawncamping.
Edit: There is nothing to nerf about it, it has miniguns that does what they do. Making my game harder and easier for you by nerfing is not solution. Jet does very good damage and I heard it's getting 30mm buff? Try that. Oh and rocket pods.
Edit: dodge TGM with ease? TGM has big delay, you can't dodge stuff that isn't actually there.
- S3SSioN_SoL2 years agoSeasoned Ace@Man_iLoveFishing That's precisely why the Tor is also balanced, you see a Tor, your own Tor can kill it.
The same can't quite be said about a Nightbird versus a Nightbird. Those hundreds of hours make all the difference in such a matchup. That is not something that should be punished. But for all the reasons mentioned earlier, the Nightbird is fundamentally imbalanced.
- YourLocalPIumber2 years agoSeasoned Ace@S3SSioN_SoL It's so funny watching both sides complain when I actually play both sides and you don't.
One is saying NB is OP and should get nerfed, other is crying that it doesn't matter and it takes skill.
I'll give you my inside as a top 1% infantry player and a decent Nightbird pilot with 8k kills.
Yes, it actually takes a lot of practice and skill if you want to stay alive for more than 20 kills. And it should be this way. Nightbird is a high risk high reward vehicle. Everything tends to kill your pilot - Ranger, Boris turrets and any random gunfire since cockpit provides 0 protection.
You should be able to avoid Lissiles because they were never intended to be an AA rockets. Giving them even more agility will permanently delete tanks from the game because you won't be able to hide.
Below radar doesn't work on Stingers. And you become easy prey for M5 users.
Saying NB doesn't takes any skills means you never flew in it and don't know what you're talking about.
That said, it indeed has too much firepower. Autocannons and rockets that take no skill and AGMs that allow you solo tanks.
My opinion - autocannons and pods should be removed.
Change AGMs to do more damage, but reduce to 1 from 2. Otherwise it's too easy to solo tanks.
Leave miniguns as they are. They do indeed require a lot of practice to aim. If someone is able to kill you from really far away or up close, that gamer has some skill.- S3SSioN_SoL2 years agoSeasoned Ace
@UP_LordPlumberThe Nightbird is the easiest vehicle to fly in the game. The only time people will have an issue flying it is when trying to land it, because it can't land consistently.
When I say fly, I refer to the mechanics involved with flying. When I say attack or reference firepower, I am referring to its ability to put out damage.Also, the idea that it requires hours upon hours to aim with it is once again supplanted by the fact that once you hover, aiming is easy.