@Man_iLoveFishing "Fun I deserve"
That right there sums up your argument. You seem to believe it takes skill to shred enemy Jets in less than 2 seconds? Or melt enemy armor with ease, with no regard for danger from lock-ons or enemy TGM's because the crazy maneuverability allows you to dodge all of that with ease. Flares on cool down? Just fly low! Below radar offers unparalleled protection which as a result of the Nightbird's agility, it can easily take advantage of, guaranteeing its survival.
I see people complain about the Tor and I just can't understand why they complain about it. The only map where the Tor is an issue is Hourglass which is soon to be reworked. Furthermore, when the Tor camps they lose the game. Simple really.
You need to examine the "balance" holistically, I have a feeling the only reason why you don't like the Tor is because it can end your 40+ killsteaks from across the map. What if I told you, it takes as much skill to do that as it does to fly the Nightbird lmao, because beyond that the hundreds of hours you reference is just reinforcement for granular precision and consistency just like any other skill. The Nightbird is without a doubt, the easiest the aircraft to fly for many reasons. If anything about the Nightbird gets nerfed, I doubt it will ruin your fun because as I mentioned before, those hundreds of hours are not going to magically disappear, all it means is that the Nightbird will fit within its role better.
@S3SSioN_SoLAre you serious now? This is exactly why we get bad balance of yous. Not understanding tor right? That can reach you from everywhere without any warnings. Don't even bring glint here, I see that glint after my death. And then you complain about bird killing you cause you come in with air radars and then fly around me like flat leaf and wondering why bird obliviates you? Dude please. If you can't kill bird, you have SAME exact vehicle to counter me. Also I've tried jets and it is sweaty fight between bird but I don't fly close to it for exact reason, meanwhile you want to get that bird so badly that you put yourself in front of bitd as "easy target". Also people do mistakes coming straight at me meanwhile jets have advantage for skybox ceiling and don't anticipate. Never gonna say it's easy, it does require skill for sure but not impossible, just use ur vehicle right... You have all that skybox and speed, bigger problem for you is wildcat with lockons.
Edit: About spawncamping, tor is the reason of spawncamping.
Edit: There is nothing to nerf about it, it has miniguns that does what they do. Making my game harder and easier for you by nerfing is not solution. Jet does very good damage and I heard it's getting 30mm buff? Try that. Oh and rocket pods.
Edit: dodge TGM with ease? TGM has big delay, you can't dodge stuff that isn't actually there.
@UP_LordPlumberThe Nightbird is the easiest vehicle to fly in the game. The only time people will have an issue flying it is when trying to land it, because it can't land consistently.
When I say fly, I refer to the mechanics involved with flying. When I say attack or reference firepower, I am referring to its ability to put out damage.
Also, the idea that it requires hours upon hours to aim with it is once again supplanted by the fact that once you hover, aiming is easy.
@S3SSioN_SoLTor is still issue, I can go kill unskilled tor. Guy that knows proper order of using counters can be actually difficult and almost unkillable, birds agms doesn't work like jets that you can pull 2 same time. They have delay, me hovering around enemy spawn killing tor is not my objective, that's causing me to spawnkill. But problem is, I'm no match for it when other vehicles spawn there.
Edit: Lmfao, Casper drone vs bird? Man, stop. 😂
@S3SSioN_SoLboy, I wish to play against you and me sitting in tor. You should realize, tor is biggest problem in this game. That is untouchable thing and can just sit there watching Netflix.
@Man_iLoveFishingAlso, feel free to make a separate post to voice your feedback about the Tor. I won't be commenting further in this thread about the Tor. That is one of the points of the forum at the end of the day, to offer feedback from our experience playing the video game.
@S3SSioN_SoLYou brought tor into conv. Good day.
Edit: I did, my bad.
@Man_iLoveFishing wrote:@S3SSioN_SoLYou brought tor into conv. Good day.
Edit: I did, my bad.
All is fine, we're just passionate about our video game at the end of the day.
@UP_LordPlumber wrote:
@S3SSioN_SoLAlright then. If you say it's easy, prove it. Go into any pvp mode and achieve 40 kill streak without killing bots
And this is why... if you read my initial post, you would see I mention telemetry and statistics. Calling for the balancing of a vehicle such as in the case of the Nightbird being able to shred a Jet in 2 seconds, I think is reasonable, but it should not happen just because I say so, it should happen based on the data DICE has. If one player is getting 60 kills out of the rest, then they are an outlier, someone who has probably dedicated most of their time playing to flying said aircraft, again there's nothing wrong with being exceptionally skilled at one facet of a Battlefield game.
The problem comes in where the Nightbird can eat a direct recoilless with zero consequences. This is the main point of my complaints about the Nightbird and has been so in my prior posts about it as well, its been a bugged vehicle for a very long time. And its all these bugs which give it an advantage which it should not have. At the end of the day, DICE must address these bugs. It's a bit like that bug where a tank shell hits an aircraft but does zero damage. They should rename the aircraft to Nightbug to justify its existence.
@S3SSioN_SoLwrote:
You need to examine the "balance" holistically, I have a feeling the only reason why you don't like the Tor is because it can end your 40+ killsteaks from across the map. What if I told you, it takes as much skill to do that as it does to fly the Nightbird lmao, because beyond that the hundreds of hours you reference is just reinforcement for granular precision and consistency just like any other skill. The Nightbird is without a doubt, the easiest the aircraft to fly for many reasons. If anything about the Nightbird gets nerfed, I doubt it will ruin your fun because as I mentioned before, those hundreds of hours are not going to magically disappear, all it means is that the Nightbird will fit within its role better.
Refer to the above.
Take note, when I say fly, I refer to the mechanics of flying the aircraft, not its ability to engage targets, that would require even more paragraphs talking about its inherent agility and precision required. I could have clarified this better.
I implore you to try destroy a Nightbird that knows what they're doing, that knows to fly directly above an AA after hitting it with an AGM. That knows to look for Blasco's gadget when it can't lock on. It will be tough. Almost too tough. One could argue, that it's kinda OP. 🙂
@Man_iLoveFishing wrote:@S3SSioN_SoLTor is still issue, I can go kill unskilled tor. Guy that knows proper order of using counters can be actually difficult and almost unkillable, birds agms doesn't work like jets that you can pull 2 same time. They have delay, me hovering around enemy spawn killing tor is not my objective, that's causing me to spawnkill. But problem is, I'm no match for it when other vehicles spawn there.
Edit: Lmfao, Casper drone vs bird? Man, stop. 😂
Nightbird can kill a TOR in under 20 seconds. Nightbird is OP
Case closed.
Nightbird is incredibly fast and agile.
It makes no sense whatsoever to compare it’s movement ability with infantry slide etc.
@S3SSioN_SoL wrote:
From your posts, I see you are an avid fighter pilot. So you complain about how quickly the night bird destroys you, but you are not a bit ashamed to disassemble attack helicopters in one go. You like it when your radar missiles are not dropped by traps. When playing an attack helicopter on a jet, you need 3 hits of 127mm in an insanely small flat hitbox, while with a light helicopter, 2 are enough, is this normal ? That is why there should be a rescue against you in the form of the Night Bird so that everything is not so sweet for you.
It is not possible to play normally in BF2042 on an attack helicopter because of the lethal fighters, the G-84 flying from everywhere and the TOR railgun waiting in the bushes.
Thanks to DICE for at least not nerfing NightBird.
And the TOR railgun can be destroyed in 20 seconds. It is a fact.
@AlkaniusRUSSince when am I an "Avid fighter" pilot? I ave more kills in a Nightbird than in both jets, both attack choppers and stealth choppers combined
Also what the hell are you talking about in your post? Jumping from point to point. Impossible to follow it
@UP_LordPlumber wrote:
@ShibiwanTeach me senpai
I agree, I didn't post well. I wanted to confirm to you that TOR can be destroyed in 20 seconds. and put you in a copy of the post
