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Seasoned Ace

2 years ago

It seems like the Nightbird will remain unchanged in 5.0.0

Please DICE, go over the telemetry and statistics that you have access to, you will see why the Nightbird needs to be nerfed. There's already been numerous complaints about this aircraft in this for...

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YourLocalPIumber

Seasoned Ace

2 years ago

@S3SSioN_SoL I'm writing this based on your other replies such as

" You want to fly a balanced aircraft? Fly the attack chopper. You want to go on a 50 killstreak? Fly the nightbird."

"It weird how Nightbird mains believe it takes hundreds of hours to fly an overpowered vehicle."

"That right there sums up your argument. You seem to believe it takes skill to shred enemy Jets in less than 2 seconds? Or melt enemy armor with ease, with no regard for danger from lock-ons or enemy TGM's because the crazy maneuverability allows you to dodge all of that with ease. Flares on cool down? Just fly low! Below radar offers unparalleled protection which as a result of the Nightbird's agility, it can easily take advantage of, guaranteeing its survival."

You're the one here talking about Nightbird as if it's some kind of unstoppable God mode machine that ANYONE can use at any time. So please, prove it.

But now you're saying that " If one player is getting 60 kills out of the rest, then they are an outlier, someone who has probably dedicated most of their time playing to flying said aircraft"

But before that you were chastising @Man_iLoveFishing" for dedicating him time to Nightbird and saying that it "ruins your time".

So do we actually deserve to go on high killstreaks if we dedicate hundreds of hours or not? Or you still believe anyone can jump in and go on a 40+ streak just like that?

S3SSioN_SoL

Seasoned Ace

2 years ago

@S3SSioN_SoLwrote:
You need to examine the "balance" holistically, I have a feeling the only reason why you don't like the Tor is because it can end your 40+ killsteaks from across the map. What if I told you, it takes as much skill to do that as it does to fly the Nightbird lmao, because beyond that the hundreds of hours you reference is just reinforcement for granular precision and consistency just like any other skill. The Nightbird is without a doubt, the easiest the aircraft to fly for many reasons. If anything about the Nightbird gets nerfed, I doubt it will ruin your fun because as I mentioned before, those hundreds of hours are not going to magically disappear, all it means is that the Nightbird will fit within its role better.

@UP_LordPlumber

Refer to the above.

Take note, when I say fly, I refer to the mechanics of flying the aircraft, not its ability to engage targets, that would require even more paragraphs talking about its inherent agility and precision required. I could have clarified this better.

I implore you to try destroy a Nightbird that knows what they're doing, that knows to fly directly above an AA after hitting it with an AGM. That knows to look for Blasco's gadget when it can't lock on. It will be tough. Almost too tough. One could argue, that it's kinda OP. 🙂

YourLocalPIumber
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
@S3SSioN_SoL Again, this is top % of pilots who play like that. If they know where to position themselves to avoid danger, shouldn't they be rewarded for it?

I can make the same example in infantry gameplay with certain gadgets/classes that allow players to achieve high results after learning specific mechanics to give me an advantage. Should these people also be forbidden from playing the game?

Lets say I play Falck with infinite HP regain and ammo, I've learned a certain weapon for its fullest potential and now can engage targets at long distances because of recoil control and muscle memory.

I've mastered movement mechanics i.e slide canceling and weaving, learned all cover position and use it to my advantage over other blueberries.

Now does that make my loadout OP that gives me an unfair advantage, or my time and skill I've earned through playing the game and learning its mechanics?

I've no stranger to dropping 80+ conquest games on foot using most primary weapons available in game. Does that make the entire game "kinda op"? Because try fighting me 1 v 1 and I guarantee you I will win.
AlkaniusRUS
2 years ago
@S3SSioN_SoL wrote:
@UP_LordPlumber
From your posts, I see you are an avid fighter pilot. So you complain about how quickly the night bird destroys you, but you are not a bit ashamed to disassemble attack helicopters in one go. You like it when your radar missiles are not dropped by traps. When playing an attack helicopter on a jet, you need 3 hits of 127mm in an insanely small flat hitbox, while with a light helicopter, 2 are enough, is this normal ? That is why there should be a rescue against you in the form of the Night Bird so that everything is not so sweet for you.
It is not possible to play normally in BF2042 on an attack helicopter because of the lethal fighters, the G-84 flying from everywhere and the TOR railgun waiting in the bushes.
Thanks to DICE for at least not nerfing NightBird.
And the TOR railgun can be destroyed in 20 seconds. It is a fact.
YourLocalPIumber
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
@AlkaniusRUSSince when am I an "Avid fighter" pilot? I ave more kills in a Nightbird than in both jets, both attack choppers and stealth choppers combined
Also what the hell are you talking about in your post? Jumping from point to point. Impossible to follow it