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INB4 "But DICE have said it's not cheating....."
- 4 years ago@Trokey66 I think those equipment were for PS4 and similar where you had to buy the "Sony made K&M" to play with K&M and with XIM you can use your own. Probably depends on the pov is it considered cheating or not.
- 4 years ago@Z3nMestar1 no, those devices deceive the console into thinking that a controller is being used and I have no doubt that PS5 versions are in development.....
- 4 years ago@Trokey66 Well, it's great that there are options to choose from!
- 4 years ago
I quick Google search reveals that yes, there is a XIM PS5 firmware update available.
- 4 years ago
I'm a console player and I hope we keep it controller only for First Person Shooters. Many of us console players enjoy the casual comfort of using a controller. With a KBM, you need to sit up straight and get into a "desk locked" type of position. Its a more rigorous position then sitting on the couch with your controller. So we like relaxing with our controllers and if KBM comes on the scene, it will compel us to use a KBM to be competitive. I vote to leave consoles alone as a controller driven device. (At least for competitive games.)
If you really want KBM, do the work and configure a XIM on your console or play on PC.
Consoles have been a stable platform with little cheating and parity of hardware and use. Part of the attraction is they are low cost and are not always changing. We don't need to turn them into PCs with the addition of KBM control. Controllers are comfortable and fun to use. So please let us keep our controllers.
- 4 years ago@Forkbeard84 I would say that nobody is taking away the controllers! Maybe there would be a smilar option to choose like "crossplay enabled" if someone would like to play with K&M against PC players. Different story if the game developers have created such an option that when crossplay is enabled then you could use K&M on consoles..
- 4 years ago@Z3nMestar1 It might be ok if it works like you say. I really don't want to have a bunch of KBM console players owning us controller players in Battlefield.
- 4 years ago@Forkbeard84 As long as everyone is having fun and enjoying the game to its fullest! Let's hope they would reveal something soon that would make everyone happy. Too optimistic ?
- 4 years ago
Doesn´t Halo (Master Chief collection at least) have an option in the matchmaking for controller input?
If you play with controller and only want to play against people with controller you can do that, if you have keyboard and mouse you can choose to only play against keyboard and mouse.
Or you can choose to matchmake against all, and this is both on Xbox and PC, cause you can also play with controller on PC.
And Halo also has it so you can´t switch between inputs during matches, if you start a match with controller you cant switch to keyboard during the match to trick the matchmaking. The keyboard does simply not respond to your input while ingame if you have chosen controller. You have to back out to the main menus if I remember it correctly.
- 4 years ago
@Trokey66 Considering people can eliminate recoil and mess with fire rates using a xim or crocusmax I would say anyone using it is sure as hell cheating not playing fair on an even playing field.
- 4 years ago@Blackidus Very good point! Hopefully EA has something like this coming up.
- 4 years ago
That sounds like a great idea!
- 4 years ago
@DutchRustyDove81hmm for now you get controller(ps5,xsx,pc) vs keyboard (pc) wow very unfair game needs input based matchmaking players should be given choices on each platform 🙂)
- Its_Travis_1994 years agoHero+
Cross-play can simply also be turned off then. To not worry about the PC player.
Greets,
Travis
- 4 years ago@Its_Travis_199 Understand I don't want to turn off crossplay as I want to play with my friends on other platforms like in cod i can choose input type 🙂
- 4 years ago
@Z3nMestar1 wrote:
@Trokey66I think those equipment were for PS4 and similar where you had to buy the "Sony made K&M" to play with K&M and with XIM you can use your own. Probably depends on the pov is it considered cheating or not.According EA's own updated guidelines for what is cheating or not, then modded controllers, keyboard scripting and mouse scripts is all cheating.
As using technology beyond the intended for the gameplay by the game designers to nihilate the games intended weapon recoil and other functions, such as doing auto tagging of enemies, to aid auto aim movements, to auto move/slide/bunnyhop soldier, to make single action guns full auto......... is all cheating then per EA's definition of cheating for BF2042.
And that is the reason why the PS5 now comes by encrypted links between the console and the controllers, to ensure the game developers have full control also on what accessories are used for the gameplay. If EA do not enforce strict AC measures, then we are done. Game over for the AAA game franchise, as we do not pay $60+ for a license to be swamped by cheaters.
I for one praise this move, as we do not want to see the console gamer world plunge into the hacker/cheater mayhem that the PC world has become. The very reason many of us left the PC gaming world years back, as we want a level playing field and totally fed up with the immature cheaters.
- 3 years ago@Z3nMestar1 that's the issue, a lot of console players aren't happy and having fun and the main reason is cross playing with PC... I'm sure PC players are having grand ol time dominating the score boards at the expense of console players.
- 3 years ago@xXHappy_PuppyXx So much time lost waiting for an answer. Not a single word from EA! Why just not say yes or no? Are we invisible with one topic with 1300+ replies? What do we need to be visible and get a simple answer?
- 3 years ago@ramonflmr My gut feeling is that they are PC players. I watched a CoD dev talk about a console issue and just shrugged and said well I play on PC. I think the same issue here with Dice devs.
I would love for a Dice dev to play on a series x and show us the Aim Assit they claim is working.
I'm not sure what it will take... I'm sure Microsoft or Sony could put pressure like Sony did with CDPRs Cyberpunk. I doubt it though as EA is to large. It's a shame though.
No other business can get away with releasing products that are so fundamentally broken and get away with it. - 3 years ago
After seeing the COD MW2 reveal and reading about Game/guns/vehicle Mechanics... seems like Activision took advantage of the BF2042 failure. MW2 Looks and sounds a lot like BF4 (if the leaks and all the info is correct).
And yes, THEY WILL HAVE M&K SUPPORT, just like the previous COD.. coz this 2022 and CROSSPLAY is the future (PC ratboys and delicate ppl can b**w me, cuz buying a PC now a days is just not viable for most of us)So.. DICE... keep it like this and COD will keep taking your territory like you never imagined
Just an opinion tho...
Crystal kids and rat boys warned... - 3 years ago
I am NOT letting this go. Come on DICE/EA... Just make the game less frustrating for console players. Or make the aim assist better, because its almost impossble to track the enemy player even if it's right in front of me.
M&K support is just fair play. At least give us some response on the matter.
- 3 years ago
DICE/EA We want is just an answer from you. Thinking about a fair game for those who play on consoles. ☹️
- 3 years ago
@NeoHesperAgree. DICE please bring KBM support to consoles!
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