There is a entire PVE audience that doesnt want to bother with multiplayer. These people spent upwards of 100usd to have early access. Every hour you arent returning normal XP and Unlocking of attachments for guns and vehicles to Solo/Coop vs AI is a slap in the face for those people. We paid almost double to have early access and start grinding and now we cant.
So did they just make it where AI kills no longer count towards attachments? I noticed earlier when I was trying out Portal that I was getting XP from AI lobbies (which I was surprised by), so doesn't surprise me there was already farms. DICE really should have seen that one coming right out the gate.
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@LunatlqueXP farm servers ruined it.
The XP Farm servers were a symptom of a wider issue. Primarily, why on earth are attachments, upgrades, and equipment locked behind kill counters?
That's the issue here that needs fixing. And they will fix it by selling us short cuts.
100% agree with you, Just because some wanted to cheat the system - you can't screw PVE players over. Stopped playing BF games after 4 as I absolutely despise MP wen't back to BF2 as I couldn't be bothered with sweating it out.
Taking mastery out of AOW made absolutely zero sense if they wanted to stop the 1hp servers,
Bring everything back as it was, its what we were sold on and what we paid for.
Lets get more support for this. Its been 2 days and we still cant unlock mastery attachments and vehicle upgrades in solo/coop mode. We paid through the roof for early access!
@yungblockburna''and can you not access it? I paid for early access as well. We paid to access the game early not to farm it.''
No we can't access it, because the product that we paid for has changed in its description. We can no longer access a mode that doesn't exist as described.
Couldn't agree more. Feel like EA haven't thought this through at all when other games offer a solo coop experience. Been a massive bf fan since bf1942 & now I'm loosing faith fast.
Would have been nice to know the dumbing down or completely removing xp from those modes while in game at the time.
They got the “dozer” shield thing on the main menu. I saw that in game often, but not one word about the xp in portal. Like keeping it a secret or something. I mean realistically if I knew I wasn’t going to get full xp or any at all I definitely would not have even played the mode those first few hours.
If they had initially said when showcasing the mode there would be all these cool things we could do in Portal but it was just for fun and no xp would be ever given then that part of the game would have been DOA. Yeah people would have played it a few times for practice or a nostalgic hit but that would have been about it.
EA/DICE made such a big deal out of this mode and couldn’t foresee human nature or scumbaggery could turn servers into xp farms really is kind of weird and shortsighted. And then to just kind of mention it on twitter or reddit as a “oh by the way…”
This may be a controversial opinion but I'm masochistic so I'm going to pay it anyway.
Remove the XP Farm servers and reset the progress of the people that were in them. It isn't difficult. If you really want to take a firm stance on stuff like this, don't ruin it for everyone else, send a message plain and clear. If you were grinding unfairly for a large chunk of your levels, you're now back at 0. It's fair, it's honest and although it's controversial, I doubt anyone would disagree with me. At least, the people that aren't on those servers wouldn't.
Bumping as well. There was no reason to lower xp or unlocks or really anything on solo and co op. Other then raising or lowering the ai intelligence there are no other ways to rig the system.
Seems like devs were so freaked out that people figured out how to farm xp in portal that they shut almost all of it down.
And with really no word for the past couple of days I think this is going to be the norm for a while.
Btw coop xp is down from 1/3 to 1/4 as of today. I'm kinda pissed off consoles can't edit cheat in coop I paid $520 to play this with my family while we are stuck in covid lockdown ai mode is what sold me because no animals in coop just fam or personal friends.
@justinwessig I completely understand your frustration. Although I am not in the same position as you, I am also not entirely happy how DICE is handling it. At this point it feels like I paid extra to get a full access to the incomplete early-access game instead of getting an early access to the complete full game.
I at least hope that they will put it back at the official release in a couple of days, as I can clearly imagine the storm when the majority of players discover that the promised progress across the modes is not true.
@LunatlqueI agree 100% that they need to quickly bring back a robust unlock system for Coop/Solo bot players.
The only way to do this correctly and fairly was to make 2 separate unlock systems. One for competitive MP and another for solo/coop modes. What you unlock in solo/coop should only be usable there and vice versa for competitive MP.
Sharing of unlocks only promotes abuse of the system by the cheating competitives, who by the way should have their accounts perma banned.
Shutting down the system is unfair for the bots players since many of us purchased the game based on the fact that we were told we'd be allowed to play the "unlock" game while playing against the bots.
They need to bring this back online because alot of us are getting pissed at this point.
While I do agree with you Bigshottt I dont think two seperate unlock systems are needed. Not only was it promised to us we could progress the game by playing PVE ( solo/coop vs AI)
But im also very sure there will be shortcut bundles in the store on the 19th or at a later date anyway.
Bumping this thread to raise awareness
COD Ghosts had the correct way of allowing both competitive AND bot players to level up all the way. They introduced a separate XP and leveling system for bot play...worked the same exact way as the competitive unlocks...only it wasn't a shared system. Your MP progression/unlocks stayed in MP...and your bot unlocks/progression stayed in bot modes. Done. Everyone happy, as far as cheating issues.
I sincerely hope that DICE will keep bots in the franchise now for a very long time to come, but for future versions they really should consider mirroring the progression systems, but separating them for PvE and PvP..
Disagree on segregated progression seriously coop is not exploitable and those players may want to progress to live matches eventually I see no reason to make them start from scratch or punish an advertised feature mode
Quite frankly I suck and it will take forever to get hundreds of kills against humans, good players will unlock meta stuff in no time anyway, this nerf might be aimed at hardcore players but it hurts the casual crowd even more.
Same sentiment here. Really mad I paid $100+ for this only to get the game changed on us to prevent exploiters. Insane to me that this wasn't expected. But either way don't screw over all of the folks that want to play PVE only, just because you're trying to clamp down on farmers. This is on you EA/DICE for not foreseeing this and having something in place ahead of time. Instead you're killing interest from the PVE crowd - not to mention its simply unfair to us. Scale the XP based on difficulty/health/whatever. But don't nuke the whole thing like you did - early interest can set the tone for years of desire to play this game, or drop it this week and move on.
This is a shame because PVE mode is very suitable for those who want to play the game peacefully.
The bot soldiers are not unreasonably attacked by c5 drones or hovercrafts, and they shoot each other in an imposing manner, which I like.
I also love the PVP mode, but to be honest, I can't fully enjoy it with the current game balance.
But what I distrust more than anything is that they are hiding about the temporary "measures" of PVE mode.
Why don't they write about this change on the title screen, like the dozer shield?
did anyone notice you would join one of those servers and 1 or 3 guys had guns and no one else did. I jumped in to a few and they were awful. its simple maybe dont allow the servers to be made like this.
If DICE can get PVE mode back on track, I can surely wait long enough for "Hoverttlecraft Field 2042" to be fixed to "Battlefield 2042".
Plz,DICE!
