@ChrisAWJBethel wrote:
@tyl0413Like I said to Trokey, all they need to do is shrink each map, cap the bot count at 32-40, and disable progression. They did it for Battlefront II- why can't they do it now?
Control, they wanna control everything, change, remove, alter any parts of the game any time.
We need dedicated offline mode and it can be with disabled progression, if that is the problem.
Star Wars Battlefront 2 has it. I mean a lot of fans have been asking for this for years, so why they do not add it at some point? Is the reason that they want to have a kill switch to force people to buy new game when they turn off servers?
@TerofishyIt probably will be offline eventually like it was added in Battlefront 2. Just not at launch.
Having bot support without offline support is the most pointless thing ever.
The whole purpose of having bots is to provide a fallback mode, a way to play the game if the servers are down or if you have connection issues. The pandemic made things much worse as far as internet traffic and routing because of a lot more people working from home.
Not having an offline mode means that we are dependent on factors (like routing or server availability) that are completely outside of our control.
Not having offline support also decreases the perceived value of the game because it essentially has a kill switch at its core. I personally consider the lack of offline support deeply anti-consumer.
It turns games into perpetual rental services, it puts an expiration date on them.
Depressing time to be a gamer, honestly. Instead of being excited about new releases these days the first thing that comes into my mind is "what's the catch? what did they screw up this time?"
Having an offline mode to play with AI wouldn't hurt anyone who owns the game and has an internet connection all the time so I don't see why a certain group is against it. It's such a shame to see people against something just because it's something that wouldn't benefit them. It doesn't hurt them either so I don't see what the issue is.
This wouldn't really affect me because I probably would have my internet connection (hopefully) on even if I'm playing bots but I can see how it benefits a lot of people. I would assume the internet connection is just to tie this mode to the game's progression system (and possibly have some achievements around it) and to prevent users from using a cracked version of the game and play vs AIs for free (though I'm not sure if it actually deters them)
I think that popularity of this topic is sending clear message to DICE/EA.
When they decided to make game online only, they had to accept the possibility of a negative feedbacks from many players. Previous Battlefield titles all had some kind of campaign which we were able to play offline. Although players have been asking for offline bots mode for years, Battlefield 2042 will be title where I personally draw the line and will not buy game, if there wont be some kind of offline mode at some point.
Renting a game is just nonsense and this is not true Battlefield anymore in my opinion.
@Terofishyso they dont want us offline ??? They see Jack Sparrows And Daivee Joens behind every corner. What a paranoia.
I was expecting to, in a worst case scenario to have my own server at home and not bother with cheats and annoying people in general. Or imbalances exploited to max by no backbone no shame folks.
I guess some sort of server emulator will have to do ?
My interest is to never bother playing online with folks when bots actually work as intended. (just like old times) BF is good enough without enemy ppl. Bonus on top would be that I wont be sending any data to overload EA data mining.
You see, I only want to help them. Less data to spy, and pilfer thorough, in their interest.
In mine, well, dont bother me :P Bfbc 2 was the first major letdown in not having bots.
I bought bf 4 a week ago because Im expecting a mod for that game that has the server with bots that Ill run simultaneously. No other reason. Playing with exploiters and cheaters wasnt in my interest in the first place and it is more of a well, whatever, 'XYZ' didnt make the bots themselves in the first place.
So ... it looks like after all they really hate the idea of getting my money. Too 'bad' I guess :D lol.
looks like another one to pass. Do they really think they can insult their customers and get away with it ? If you dont like it, dont buy, all over again ... xD and here I thought they actually had a moment of enlightenment. To me personally it feels like acting in bad faith. But it is illustrious EA? so who could ever suspect that ?!
@TomaSkTemplarThat will still work in a way. Can still create our own SinglePlayer servers with up to 127 bots (64 vs 64) on NextGen and PC or 63 bots (32 vs 32) on PS4 and Xbox One.
However those are still online only and that is the real problem because when EA Servers go down it becomes completely unplayable no matter how good your internet is.
Can't connect to what isn't there.
@Jesse165well, I know there is a half-finished mod for bfbc 2 that I unfortunately could not make to run. I created my account on my own server on my own computer that was as if EA. (master server emulator MASA or so) bot mod that is.
Similar for bf 3 and 4 I believe. The mod redirected the game from ea to my own, modded server or how to name it emulator gets rid of geolocation and other espionage gadgetry.
It is supposedly online but its on my own computer this online :P Real online not required.
when the base game works and you only need to be online, redirecting to your own server should work fine. I guess. Kissing EA tentacles goodbye.
@Terofishy wrote:I think that popularity of this topic is sending clear message to DICE/EA.
When they decided to make game online only, they had to accept the possibility of a negative feedbacks from many players. Previous Battlefield titles all had some kind of campaign which we were able to play offline. Although players have been asking for offline bots mode for years, Battlefield 2042 will be title where I personally draw the line and will not buy game, if there wont be some kind of offline mode at some point.
Renting a game is just nonsense and this is not true Battlefield anymore in my opinion.
A lot of of games you buy today are just rented property which you don't really own. You can find a few titles here and there on platforms like Steam but it's the way it is for now. That's why I'm slowly switching to GOG - no fuss about connection availability, launchers etc. Unfortunately, a lot of devs don't care about DRM free options so you're stuck with a choice to ''rent'' a game or not to play it at all. But it's been slowly changing in positive direction for last few years.
@TerofishyIt has been a long time since anyone has 'owned' a game, you own a License to use the software and this can be revoked anytime.
@Trokey66They'll get it when their online only game gets shut down lol.
I played Marvel Heroes Omega for 4 years and in an instant it was gone. One of the main creators talked about how odd it felt because with other games he made he could at least replay it and show someone. But he spent like 7 years on Marvel Heroes, and its just gone. Servers shut down and no game to show for it or anyone to play. And everything players bought in game got shut down with it.
