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@ChrisAWJBethelThat is EXACTLY what we are trying to do. Only those who want the game to fail would disagree with this and call Offline AI Soldiers a bad thing.
- Trokey664 years agoSeasoned Ace
Complete and utter Gentleman's Dangly Bits!
And you guys accused me of trolling!
- ChrisAWJBethel4 years agoSeasoned Ace@Trokey66 You will not dissuade us from campaigning for full offline bot support in our video games. Period.
- Jesse1654 years agoSeasoned Ace@ChrisAWJBethel Just don't bother replying to him anymore. That is where I am with it.
If EA and DICE truly care about the longevity of Battlefield 2042 they will make it playable offline before the end just like they did with Battlefront 2 🙂 - ChrisAWJBethel4 years agoSeasoned Ace@Jesse165 Yeah, you're probably right. I just hope all the modes will be fully supported.
- Jesse1654 years agoSeasoned Ace@ChrisAWJBethel Not sure about Portal since those modes will be created here on the EA Battlefield website so it will be online only. This is why it seemed like I was against it earlier in the thread even though I wasn't. I have accepted the fact that Portal will be online only so we can have up to 127 AI Soldiers in those matches.
However they should be able to make the All Out Warfare (2042 Conquest and Breakthrough) available offline even if they have to be smaller matches overall. - ChrisAWJBethel4 years agoSeasoned Ace@Jesse165 Agreed. Still, it would be nice if they crafted an offline version of Portal in addition to the other game modes.
- 4 years ago
@ChrisAWJBethelI can't believe you tried to play the Race Card, attempting to say that a game developer exercising their 'right' to do what they will with their property--and you having agreed to it, beforehand--is like slavery! Are you nuts??? There is absolutely NO comparison between what slaves endured and your whining because someone took their 'ball' (game) and went home with it. Unbelievable! I was taking you seriously, before, but now I am completely over it.
Just so you know, I am actually very much *for* having offline bots. I've said it many times in this forum. I just can't support you in how you think you own, and somehow should be able to dictate terms, of someone else's property. Their House, their rules.
It's just like if you went to a paintball field and purchased an Unlimited Play pass to play paintball. After two years, the owners decide to close up shop and retire. It's their business, and they can run--or close it--anytime they choose. The TOS you signed states that they may end play or shut down the business at anytime, but here you are whining because they closed--and somehow think you are entitled to force them to keep the doors open, just so you can keep playing. Sorry, but you don't own that business, the land, the equipment, or the labor of the people who would have to keep working in order for you to continue playing there.
This has gotten too ridiculous. This entitlement mentality stuff...I'm over it. Feel free to say what you need to say, but I'm done with that subject.
EA & DICE should continue to do whatever they feel is necessary for the betterment of their business. If you and I don't approve of their actions, we can always withhold our money. They are free to conduct their business as they choose, and we are free to give our money to someone else. Freedom on both sides. - Jesse1654 years agoSeasoned Ace
@ChugKendallThat was beautiful and absolutely right.
We can keep giving them reasons to make the Solo Matches playable offline as many times as we want.
But in the end it's EA and DICE's decision whether we like it or not. - 4 years ago@Jesse165 Yes, and thank you, but I do hope EA & DICE will thoughtfully consider our input as they move forward with this game. I, too, would love an offline mode w/ bots, with leveling roughly equal to what it would be in muiltiplayer modes, so there's no advantage.
- Trokey664 years agoSeasoned Ace
Being realistic about the possible/probable reasons why there isn't an offline 'bot' mode is not the same as being against such a mode (unless of course, any later introduction has an impact on the online experiance).
Until one know what cannot or has not been done, one canint suggest what can or should be done.
I care not a jot about offline 'bots' in the same way I don't care about TDM or hardcore but understand some, bizzarely, enjoy them so won't actively demand they exist.
- 4 years ago@Trokey66 I understand and respect your position, and I realize that offline bots aren't for everyone, but in other posts I have mentioned why I would personally welcome them (players inconsiderately playing (crappy) music through their mics, mouth-breathers, babies crying in the background, players not playing the objective, players cursing, try-hards insulting and being rude to other players, etc.). I am at the point where I think I would rather play with bots than other people, because other people are frequently disappointing. For those that don't want offline bots, they wouldn't have to play with them. Choice is a wonderful thing.
- EA_Darko4 years ago
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- Trokey664 years agoSeasoned Ace@ChugKendall Don't disagree with any of that, as you say if you don't like it, don't play it.
The problem in this thread is the willful refusal to accept possible/probable reasons why some things are not in the game. - 4 years ago@Trokey66 Holy 34 pages Batman! lol You guys blew this thread up!!
Insight or not, this is clearly a hot topic that EA needs to address. Maybe we don't get it at launch. Battlefront 2 had limited offline play at launch as well. They added to it post launch which bare minimum is what BF2042 needs to do. - Trokey664 years agoSeasoned Ace
@ArchAngeL-PCXBut again with the 'needs to'! They don't NEED to do anything if it is not technically possible, outside of their current road map and not yet resoursed or they simply don't want to.
If the reason why is A or B above, you are snookered no matter how much you demand it, if it is C you're in with a chance as long as it isn't prevented by A and/or C.
If it happens, great you have what you want and I have no issue with that but if it doesn't, for the love of all things sacred try to understand why not.It is the willful ignoring of any and all pissible/probable reasons why it is not there that is doing my napper in.
- 4 years ago@Trokey66 Of course it's up to them, but with no single player or offline component after having one for so long, it's all but guaranteed many in the community will ask for it.
It happened in both Battlefront 2015 and Battlefront 2. Initially there were no plans to add offline, but the community requests were so strong they added it. In the case of Battlefront 2, the co-op didn't make it to offline until the very last update for the game. - 4 years ago@Trokey66 I personally understand what you're saying. If they can or want to do offline bots, great! If they can't, or won't, there are some gamers who will have tough choices to make. That's basically all I have left to say about it.
- Jesse1654 years agoSeasoned Ace@ChugKendall Agreed. That is pretty much where I am with it.
Will probably still pre-order it to show my support for them adding the AI Soldiers in general. But I hope and pray that the eventually make it playable Offline before it is too late. - 4 years ago@ArchAngeL-PCX Yeah, things got a little crazy for a bit, unfortunately, but I think everyone is chill now. Sometimes things happen, but at the end of the day, you pick each other up, shake hands and move on. No ill will here, and I hope others feel the same. Loved the Batman reference, too lol.
- 4 years ago
@Jesse165Right on. I have money down on it, too, but I want to see more actual gameplay, and read more details about modes and options, before I take that final plunge. I am cautiously optimistic.
- ChrisAWJBethel4 years agoSeasoned Ace@ArchAngeL-PCX Weren't there also community requests to add offline bots to Battlefield 1 and Battlefield V?
- Jesse1654 years agoSeasoned Ace@ChrisAWJBethel Yes but those never had Bot Matches at all like Battlefield 2042 will.
I think there is still no chance we will see AI Soldiers in those games for Conquest or Breakthrough but there is still hope for Offline Matches in 2042 even if it's not at launch. - ChrisAWJBethel4 years agoSeasoned Ace@Jesse165 They could always make an updated re-release of those games in which offline bots are supported.
- 4 years ago
@ChrisAWJBethel wrote:
@ArchAngeL-PCXWeren't there also community requests to add offline bots to Battlefield 1 and Battlefield V?I think it was more apparent when bf5 was in it's prime though I could be wrong... DICE started experimenting with AI and we got offline modes and coop along with bots. It was great fun. AI was surprisingly good but sometimes dumber than a rock. It was only a matter of time when they would bring this in next battlefield. There's a video on ytb if you more interested.