@ChrisAWJBethelI can't believe you tried to play the Race Card, attempting to say that a game developer exercising their 'right' to do what they will with their property--and you having agreed to it, beforehand--is like slavery! Are you nuts??? There is absolutely NO comparison between what slaves endured and your whining because someone took their 'ball' (game) and went home with it. Unbelievable! I was taking you seriously, before, but now I am completely over it.
Just so you know, I am actually very much *for* having offline bots. I've said it many times in this forum. I just can't support you in how you think you own, and somehow should be able to dictate terms, of someone else's property. Their House, their rules.
It's just like if you went to a paintball field and purchased an Unlimited Play pass to play paintball. After two years, the owners decide to close up shop and retire. It's their business, and they can run--or close it--anytime they choose. The TOS you signed states that they may end play or shut down the business at anytime, but here you are whining because they closed--and somehow think you are entitled to force them to keep the doors open, just so you can keep playing. Sorry, but you don't own that business, the land, the equipment, or the labor of the people who would have to keep working in order for you to continue playing there.
This has gotten too ridiculous. This entitlement mentality stuff...I'm over it. Feel free to say what you need to say, but I'm done with that subject.
EA & DICE should continue to do whatever they feel is necessary for the betterment of their business. If you and I don't approve of their actions, we can always withhold our money. They are free to conduct their business as they choose, and we are free to give our money to someone else. Freedom on both sides.
@ChugKendallThat was beautiful and absolutely right.
We can keep giving them reasons to make the Solo Matches playable offline as many times as we want.
But in the end it's EA and DICE's decision whether we like it or not.
Being realistic about the possible/probable reasons why there isn't an offline 'bot' mode is not the same as being against such a mode (unless of course, any later introduction has an impact on the online experiance).
Until one know what cannot or has not been done, one canint suggest what can or should be done.
I care not a jot about offline 'bots' in the same way I don't care about TDM or hardcore but understand some, bizzarely, enjoy them so won't actively demand they exist.
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@ArchAngeL-PCXBut again with the 'needs to'! They don't NEED to do anything if it is not technically possible, outside of their current road map and not yet resoursed or they simply don't want to.
If the reason why is A or B above, you are snookered no matter how much you demand it, if it is C you're in with a chance as long as it isn't prevented by A and/or C.
If it happens, great you have what you want and I have no issue with that but if it doesn't, for the love of all things sacred try to understand why not.
It is the willful ignoring of any and all pissible/probable reasons why it is not there that is doing my napper in.
@Jesse165Right on. I have money down on it, too, but I want to see more actual gameplay, and read more details about modes and options, before I take that final plunge. I am cautiously optimistic.
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@ArchAngeL-PCXWeren't there also community requests to add offline bots to Battlefield 1 and Battlefield V?
I think it was more apparent when bf5 was in it's prime though I could be wrong... DICE started experimenting with AI and we got offline modes and coop along with bots. It was great fun. AI was surprisingly good but sometimes dumber than a rock. It was only a matter of time when they would bring this in next battlefield. There's a video on ytb if you more interested.
I don't think that without offline support for the bots the game will actually be playable at launch.
No company sizes their servers for peak user numbers, and the hype for the game is huge.
Without offline support I strongly believe a lot of people that purchase the game will be locked out and completely unable to play the game for days to weeks (depending on how long the initial wave of players lasts).
I can't recall the last time the launch of an "always online" title went smoothly.
I for one will not be purchasing it until offline support for the bots is confirmed. I was actually thinking of pre-ordering, the only thing holding me back was that I lacked confirmation of offline support. Good thing I waited, I don't like refunding games.
@Strelok_1284You make some great points. As much as fans point to BF4 as the last great BF title and are playing it again, BF4 launched with completely broken servers. No one could access the game, and it was months before I could play without rubber banding.
Honestly, my concern over the general poor state of online play is growing. Hackers and terrible ping times are plaguing all online games. Even Planetside 2 is having issues with hackers basically replacing bases in game with piles of scrap. Most of the hacking is going on in PC of course, but the server quality across the board has been terrible this year, especially EA's games.
I think if this title was in development longer, we would have an offline bot mode.
The idea that gamers only cared about playing online was a media hype myth from the start. All the evidence of the past few years shows completely opposite, including in EA's own titles like Jedi Fallen Order and Battlefront 2. Even Blizzard recognized it and is putting a story campaign plus PvE modes into Overwatch 2.
It's hard to believe DICE would just ignore all that evidence this time around.
@ArchAngeL-PCX It was a huge letdown for me to find out the we don't have true offline bots.
Initially when they announced bots I was really hyped, we've been asking for so long and they finally return in BF2042. I was honestly expecting the same approach as in Star Wars Battlefront and Star Wars Battlefront 2 both being 100% playable offline with bots. Battlefront 2 got a lot of hate because of loot boxes but having bots that are fully playable offline was so good. I'm not that into Star Wars but it was fun for a limited time. My hope was that the bots would soon be featured in Battlefield.
I was sure they would port them to Battlefield V and I was again disappointed.
Maybe they'll listen and introduce offline support for BF2042.. but I'm not hoping for much at this point. ☹️
If they do add offline support I'll be sure to buy the game, if not then definitely no. Like I've said, I've been burned too many times already.
