We all expected BF2042 to continue line 2 like it did with Battlefield 1942, 1972 (Vietnam), 2, Special Forces, 2142. We all want to remove forced internet connection so people can play with bots without connecting to DICE servers . .
This will raise online and interest in the game.
On behalf of the entire player community: please remove internet connection enforcement and allow people to play with bots offline.
Really can't believe this thread is still going! Its hilarious! You can "should'ves" all you like guys but it ain't going to happen. Dice have taken super leaps with their AI soldiers (not "bots" we have been politely informed). The remote processing required to achieve that must be horrendous, it cant all happen on a local machine i'm sure. These aren't going to be the bots from combined arms or the single player games etc, these are going to play with you, be part of your squads etc. They will be playing at your skill level, sometimes beyond. Whatever machine you have its never going to manage that on its own. "bots" dont exist any more.
@Trokey66 wrote:
@tyl0413 wrote:
@Trokey66Even if that was true which it isn't, they should put it in there anyways so when hardware gets there we can play the game forever without having to rely on EA wanting to keep the game servers open.I give up......
Ha! You can't can you! It's that entitlement thing isn't it? Just takes your breath away. They are never going to see it you know. If they want something they do not see why they shouldn't have it. Must work at some level I guess otherwise you'd have thought they would have learned by now.
@ChrisAWJBethel wrote:
@Trokey66Xbox made a controller specifically designed for people with disabilities. If Xbox can do that, DICE can implement offline bots into Battlefield.
I'm sure they could, but they are not gonna, and if you read the whole of this thread lots of people have explained why that might be so. We don't really care whether you want it or not, you are entitled to wish what you want, but we don't understand how you can believe that a company like EA is going to spend money to jump through hoops because you want something. Please don't let any of us put you off asking though... I'm dead curious to know how long you'll keep insisting..
Let me clarify:
Why should you care?
1. More choices in the present, being able to play offline against bots is an option, so is playing in LAN, so would be being able to host your own server either on rented hardware or on your own, or playing on the official servers. It's more ways to play the game making it accessible to more people. If your only choice is playing on the official servers causes several problems you wouldn't have if you had more choices to play whenever there's something wrong with the server or your connection.
2. Preserving the game for the future. Always online games are built to be killed, every single one of them will be become completely unplayable forever one day once the servers are shut down. If you are not forced to rely on them because there's offline mode and ability for anyone to make their own server this ensures the game will live on forever, good examples of these games would be DOOM, Quake and Unreal Tournament for example, this used to be the norm when people cared.
Yes this is all about control and here's why:
Since the business model started shifting away from monetizing copies sold to monetizing game time it's in EAs interest to kill this game once they don't feel like it's a worth while investment, and while it is the game experience will suffer because they will mess with the gameplay in various ways to incentivize purchase of additional content, they have many patents registered like the ones that artificially change the difficulty of the game (yes even in multiplayer) to make you spend more time in the game and therefor more money. This provides a bad or at least worse player experience than games that don't do this therefor it's in their interest to limit your choices because if anyone could just spin up a server without these drawbacks everyone would play on there have more fun while spending less money which is bad for EA. Perfect example is the older Battlefield games, many players prefer playing on the community servers where admins kick the cheaters and other type of undesirable players which provide a better experience than official servers. It's important to note though that servers can not be hosted on your own hardware or any cloud provider in these titles either, they can only be rented through EA's systems which ensure they can still add undesirable things into the game but it's still better than nothing having the choice at all like in Battlefield 2042. Though being able to self host servers and playing against AI offline would be obviously better. Just like real mod tools would be significantly better than Portal but then again if modders can make a better game than EA for free it's in their interest to not let that happen.
To the ones saying "EA is not a charity, they wanna make money this makes them more money" Yes you're 100% right, i've just explained above, I though do no work for EA nor own shares of them therefor their profits are not anything of interest to me, I'm just someone who wants to have fun playing games and it's in my best interest to call out decisions like this from the developers that negatively affect player experience. Why should they listen to me? They probably shouldn't as long as people keep paying them no matter the quality of the product but i will not unless at least some of the things i suggested aren't implemented in some capacity, Battlefront 2 bots come to mind again, that's a decent compromise. I can not purchase a product that can at any second be completely taken away from me though and that's that.
@tyl0413You have used this several times now so I need to ask.....
How do you spin up and host servers when you are offline?
Also, pretty much everything that can be bought will have an expiration date sooner or later.
How long do you expect to be playing it?
Let's assume BF2042 eventually gets offline, what happens when BF7 eventually comes out without offline, are you going make the same song and dance about it or be happy you can carry on playing your 2,5 or 10 year old game offline?
(we all know the answer to the last one)
