With all "tweaks", "nerfs" and "balance" Lis is completely useless now. TV rocket is a joke, its hard even to hit a tank. With Basco perk and Irish its pointless to try. But even if u do and hit something damage is a joke. If you want to make TV rocket BF3 style controlled than bring back damage of BF3 style TVs. Otherwise its pointless to play her anymore

If I'm in a tank I just let the liz missiles hit then repair. By the time Liz regenerates another rocket the tank is fully repaired.But we are talking about a game where 6 hits from a .50 cal mounted gun on a tank doesn't kill but one throwing knife does......

@sgtPoultonIf you can't hit a tank man. It's not rockets fault. Have you tried tv missile in bf3? And there are a lot of Lizz players that are really good with it. And desync is still big problem, which means buffing Lizz will result a lot problems like before it was buffed. I use Lizz when I fly nb and it's very easy to hit tanks. Hitting nb requires skill and getting of guard is actually the key here.

@sgtPoulton I would love to hear the logic behind saying that it's hard to even hit a tankLis is in the correct place now she requires skill to use and never should have been easy to hit aircraft with. It was never easy to hit tow missiles or sraw on aircraft either.

@sgtPoulton It really needs a proximity explosion. I’ve accidentally flown through the damn windows of the Hind too many times. The desync doesn’t help either, I’ve flown “through” too many things.

@LS5_71 wrote:But we are talking about a game where 6 hits from a .50 cal mounted gun on a tank doesn't kill but one throwing knife does......Exactly this!

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44 Replies

Wargame_Enj0yer
3 years ago
The people who main Nightbird have a fieldday since Liz got nerfed.
They never feared the FXM either.
I wonder if DICE will do any fundamental balancing in the near future.
sgtPoulton
New Veteran
3 years ago
@Wargame_Enj0yer After numerous tries I managed to shoot down couple of little birds today but its because I caught them off-sight.
If people think it was really too easy to shoot down helis (or even jets, yes hello F35 hover-shooters) than vote for damage increase. It will be hard to hit but if you do damage wont be 20 or 25 lol
ATFGunr
Legend
3 years ago
@sgtPoulton It really needs a proximity explosion. I’ve accidentally flown through the damn windows of the Hind too many times. The desync doesn’t help either, I’ve flown “through” too many things.
Man_iLoveFishing
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
@sgtPoultonIf you can't hit a tank man. It's not rockets fault. Have you tried tv missile in bf3? And there are a lot of Lizz players that are really good with it. And desync is still big problem, which means buffing Lizz will result a lot problems like before it was buffed. I use Lizz when I fly nb and it's very easy to hit tanks. Hitting nb requires skill and getting of guard is actually the key here.
LS5_71
3 years ago
If I'm in a tank I just let the liz missiles hit then repair. By the time Liz regenerates another rocket the tank is fully repaired.
But we are talking about a game where 6 hits from a .50 cal mounted gun on a tank doesn't kill but one throwing knife does......
Mackstan71
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
@LS5_71 wrote:
But we are talking about a game where 6 hits from a .50 cal mounted gun on a tank doesn't kill but one throwing knife does......
Exactly this!
Tank2042Man
3 years ago
@LS5_71 Lis rocket has always worked this way vs armour pre nerf post buff, and post nerf.

Post class rework a lot of engineers have now switched to Javelin, the best launcher in the game if you want to kill land vehicles on your own or finish them off.

Wipes out nearly half the health of a tank in one hit without soflam or tracer dart assistance.

But apparently the community think it's still too weak.

OP should switch to Javelin if they want to blow up vehicles every round.

Javelin > M5 > Lis
Shibiwan
Rising Veteran
3 years ago
@Wargame_Enj0yer wrote:
The people who main Nightbird have a fieldday since Liz got nerfed.
They never feared the FXM either.
I wonder if DICE will do any fundamental balancing in the near future.
The FXM is broken and has problems hitting a Nightbird reliably. Hopefully the devs can fix it.
SpudBug
3 years ago
@sgtPoulton I would love to hear the logic behind saying that it's hard to even hit a tank

Lis is in the correct place now she requires skill to use and never should have been easy to hit aircraft with. It was never easy to hit tow missiles or sraw on aircraft either.
sgtPoulton
New Veteran
3 years ago
@SpudBug what kind of skill do you need to hit through Irish and Basco stations which protecting hill camping tank? Or maybe there's some skill to increase damage from 20 dealt, tank won't even notice that. No one is playing Lis anymore but used to play a lot before.