Forum Discussion

Metal_Daryl97's avatar
Metal_Daryl97
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago

Nightbird's miniguns are FAR too effective against Jets (and attack choppers)

The Nightbird's miniguns are pretty much as effective as the wildcat 's dual 30mm cannons against Jets.

As you can see in this short clip - https://youtu.be/HZSu7elQjGc [CLIP 5] - despite retreating as soon as I saw the approaching nightbird, it was able to able to deal 95% damage to my jet in a ridiculously short time. Similar situation in this clip - https://youtu.be/vvIbIRSXWz4 [CLIP 6] - notice how the nightbird was able to damage my jet at a ridiculously fast rate, while the jet was going vertically upwards (nightbird can point nose up for too long without losing control)!

This is especially problematic because jets can't deal damage nearly as fast to nightbirds, unless it's a hovering nightbird being piloted by a newbie. Even I, who has very little experience piloting the nightbird, can pretty much ignore good jet pilots throughout the entire round.
As you can see in these clips - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_htaRIItGswhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcIxJkMrzD8 ; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCyccdvLdRYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQXhBGQ65CU (30mm is utterly useless vs nightbirds and yet does only 8% damage per shot) - the nightbird can dodge both jet cannons and radar missiles (without even using flares, just need to do a slight turn) [CLIPS 1-4].

ONLY in cases where the nightbird is hovering and not reacting to being shot, it's possible to deal significant damage using the jet cannons - e.g. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CngkKLoHhF4 [CLIP 7].

While I wouldn't go as far as to say that the nightbird is the most effective vehicle against every single vehicle in the game, it's definitely very effective against all the vehicles. Something like the Apache may have more "firepower" but thanks to its agility, accuracy and tiny hitbox, the nightbird is capable of overpowering attack choppers easily.

Bottomline: while nightbirds can be very effective against jets, jets are not adequately effective vs nightbirds (of course, assuming that both the jet and chopper pilots are good). The jet-vs-nightbird imbalance should definitely be considered for the current jet rework.

EDIT: also consider this compilation of recent clips (was effective against all aircraft types despite barely having any experience using the nightbird's miniguns): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18yic5G8RJk

45 Replies

  • Man_iLoveFishing's avatar
    Man_iLoveFishing
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago
    @Wargame_Enj0yer It already is also for jets. Now it's getting even worse. There isn't even many good jet pilots anyways. I know handful people that can be destructive with it.
  • S3SSioN_SoL's avatar
    S3SSioN_SoL
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago

    I'm surprised DICE don't mind the most broken vehicle in the game going 70 and 0 every game.

  • UP_Hawxxeye's avatar
    UP_Hawxxeye
    Legend
    3 years ago

    @S3SSioN_SoLBecause they operate with stats. So they apparently do not feel concerned if the top percentage of pilots can pull off the 70-0 as long as the the rest of us do not.
    This is also why the new assault rifle did not got sceduled for a nerf until everyone and their great-great-great grandmother (who has taken up Bf2042 from her grave) have started to use it.

    Even in BF4 we used to meme on DICE about how they only looked at things via their "telemetry" as they called it for balance concerns

  • Metal_Daryl97's avatar
    Metal_Daryl97
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago

    @Man_iLoveFishing Jets are definitely not "untouchable". Being effective with a jet pretty much means engaging enemy vehicles and this often requires you to fly at a fairly low altitude and at low speed, which makes your jet vulnerable to a lot of things (wildcats, TORs and recoiless m5/lissile are a bigger threat to a slow jet vs far more maneuverable nightbird with much smaller hitbox) 

About Battlefield 2042 General Discussion

Discuss the latest news and game information around Battlefield 2042 in the community forums.15,991 PostsLatest Activity: 4 years ago