@emerson1975 wrote:She’s fine as she is so for the love of god no more nerfs…..just because she killed you a few times dosent make her overpowered!
You probably run nothing but Paik, K30 and smokes right?
@emerson1975 wrote:
@Echo6EchoRather than scream nerf nerf nerf why don’t you actually use tools your given to counter other specialists abilities.
A simple proxy ball works wonders
Who screamed nerf? I'm wondering why it got buffed in the first place. And sorry, a proxy ball isn't even close to Paik's ability. Get real.
@emerson1975 wrote:
@Echo6EchoWhy would you have an ability that when used puts you on the map for 64 other players to kill you…..not exactly an ability is it!
So you should have a wall hack with zero consequence? Every one of the other "specialists" have a downside but Paik doesn't and that's fair? Again, I'm betting you run nothing but Paik, K30 and smokes...
@Echo6EchoIt literally has a range of about 3 meters lol and it’s her only ability
what down side does boris have or maybe rao ?
@emerson1975 wrote:
@Echo6EchoIt literally has a range of about 3 meters lol and it’s her only ability
3 meters? hahahaha! Good one. And the only thing Dozier gets is a shield,...what's your point? Oh and BTW, that shield slows down his speed both running and turn speed. What does Paik's ability do to her again?
@Echo6Echo wrote:
So you should have a wall hack with zero consequence? Every one of the other "specialists" have a downside but Paik doesn't and that's fair? Again, I'm betting you run nothing but Paik, K30 and smokes...
So I wouldn't exactly describe that the flashing yellow message that informs you that your position was revealed as "zero consequences".
Isn't it true, that you get the same message when Paik wounds you, but doesn't kill you.
@emerson1975 wrote:
@Echo6EchoOmg many specialist have zero down sides lol just look at sundance!
If your getting killed by her often maybe it’s not her character but your play style
I'd appreciate you stop putting words in my mouth. I don't get killed by Sundance and gripe about it. She's vulnerable as heck flying and flopping around like a fish after. I actually never said anything about getting killed by Paik. Listen to what I'm saying here as proof is in the pudding. She has ZERO downside, none. She is affected in NO way by her ability. 90% of the lobbies I get in have 1/2 to 3/4 Paik in them. Everyone is running her with K30 and smoke. I've never seen so much dang smoke on a map before. This is live proof it's OP. Ever wonder what the OP item/gun/class is in a game? Look at the ones everyone is running.
@kregora wrote:So I wouldn't exactly describe that the flashing yellow message that informs you that your position was revealed as "zero consequences".
Isn't it true, that you get the same message when Paik wounds you, but doesn't kill you.
Seriously? You think that's a downside? So me knowing that somewhere in the 360 degs around me within 20 meters someone knows my exact position, whether I'm prone or not and if I'm moving or static is a benefit or a detriment to the person that knows? I can hear the pokey ball but it doesn't in any way help me know where the other player is and neither does the message of doom...Please do explain this one in detail...
@emerson1975 wrote:
@Echo6EchoOnce again….many of the specialists don’t have a down side!
The ones that don't have any negative affect, (Boris, Irish, Angel, Falk) are either nearly pointless, have actual counters, or aren't basically hacks.
@kregora wrote:
@Echo6EchoAre you sure thats the reason, and not that people now play Paik to get their T1 unlocked? Now that she became viable again?
You refer to smoke usage, and I do use a lot of smoke, just because its BF2042 and smoke is the only way to get some concealment. It worked fine in BFV to revive people, and that works fine in BF2042, too.
I'm 100% positive that most of the time I get hacked by a Paik and killed it's already T1. It only takes a few rounds of BT to get T1 anyway. It's by far the easiest to get T1 in for me so far. You have it T1? Are you still using it?
I get your smoke comment and sure it's used, but not as much as it is now that Paik hacks...
@emerson1975 wrote:
@Echo6EchoEh so you have paik t1 so have actually used her more than me looool come on dude stop this!
How could I possibly know how strong something is or isn't if I've never used it? Used it long enough to T1 it which was about 2 hrs....stop what? Your argument makes no sense at all. Using something that you believe is OP means you can't say it's OP? Are you saying you've never used it? If that's the case, you have NO leg to stand on.
@emerson1975 wrote:
@Echo6EchoYou can’t complain about a character you have actually maxed out lol!
It seems you was more than happy using this so called overpowered character.
Really? It takes zero effort to max her out. And I played her long enough to do that and not a moment longer, which was about 2 hours of my hundreds of hours of play time. Are you even reading my posts or just railing at me in a vain attempt to discredit me? And I'm going to disagree that you aren't allowed to use something you think it OP. How do you know if it is or isn't if you don't try it. It's like saying you don't like carrots and you've never eaten them. You still haven't said whether or not you've used her at all. Double edge sword right? If you haven't, you have no basis for argument. If you have and still use it past T1, then you know it's OP. I won't continue the debate with you as I feel we've reach an impasse of me stating what I feel to be facts and you trying your hardest to break me down for using her and put words in my mouth without a reasonable argument.
@UP_Hawxxeye I agree that maybe being spotted is too much. Not suggesting that at all. I'm stating emphatically that it's OP in it's current state 🙂
For the longest time I never even knew she showed up on the map when using the ability and as soon as I did they take it away haha - That message is permanently etched on my screen now :/
@emerson1975 wrote:
@Echo6EchoYour being ridiculous lol your basically saying now your t1 it needs nerfing!
I have used the character and never once thought It was overpowered at all especially when compared to other characters.
This community needs to stop this nerfing stuff because it’s getting beyond ridiculous.
Again with the words in my mouth....I don't want it nerfed because I'm done with T1. Are you reading anything I write or is comprehension the problem? I'm saying I T1'd it in like TWO HOURS and haven't touched it since, any my opinion is that as it sits it's OP. I also NEVER said to nerf it....I've said it's OP to have zero consequence. Is that really that hard to understand? I'm done talking to you at this point. We can't have a debate with you hurling insults and trying to discredit me because I've used a certain character and think it's OP. Again, you don't know if you like the sauce if you've never tasted the sauce.
I'd love to hear how you would compare her power to other characters is some meaningful way since you seem to think she's ultra balanced with the likes or Boris or Dozier...
