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YourLocalPIumber
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago

Plus System already looks borken.

So in the gameplay trailer, we had our first look at the new "Plus System" and I can already see why it has the potential to be BF2042's version of stim glitch from Warzone. Take a look at this Before swapping a bunch of accessories, the player has 26/42, but after changing everything, his ammo goes to full 51/153. Now that just screams broken. Not only it completely refilled his ammo but also reloaded the gun to full ammo capacity. I think your ammo should stay the same, or become lower if you're going from drum mag to a small stick mag. Otherwise, it will create huge gameplay problems.

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  • UP_SunnyTheWolf's avatar
    UP_SunnyTheWolf
    4 years ago
    @UP_LordPlumber I think there's some confusion about the system, and how it pertains to the ammo used.

    Dice mentioned different ammo types within the plussystem, so it might be that the player was changing both his ammo and magazine type at the same time, and maybe changing back would also revert the ammo count.
  • YourLocalPIumber's avatar
    YourLocalPIumber
    Seasoned Ace
    4 years ago

    @UP_SunnyTheWolfBut this is exactly the problem with the system. Imagine you're in a tight firefight, you completely run out of ammo with your 30 round mag. All you have to do is open this little window, click on a drum mag option and voila, magically you have full ammo and 50 round ready to go at your enemy, all within 1 second. So whats the point of reloading anymore.

  • UP_SunnyTheWolf's avatar
    UP_SunnyTheWolf
    4 years ago

    I think we have to remember that it was pre-alpha footage, so the system isn't probably in its final form in the gameplay clip.

  • YourLocalPIumber's avatar
    YourLocalPIumber
    Seasoned Ace
    4 years ago
    @UP_SunnyTheWolf I want to hope. But then I remember BF4's reload glitch and how long it took then to fix that, and then it made its way with Frostbite into BF hardline xD, even in Hardline trailer.

    Its just a little scary because me and my friends were talking about this concern before the gameplay trailer, and then we spotted our concern right there by watching it. Kinda scary.
  • UP_SunnyTheWolf's avatar
    UP_SunnyTheWolf
    4 years ago

    I agree that it would seem to be a bad  game-design choice if the changes within the plussystem take affect immediately without any time delay - especially when it comes to ammo.

    Still, that is such an obvious point of contention that I can't believe that would be the intended mechanism in the final release.

  • Trokey66's avatar
    Trokey66
    Seasoned Ace
    4 years ago

    As it doesn't strictly speaking, exist yet as it is just pre alpha, it is a tad premature to throw 'broken' around just yet.

    That said it does need looking into before release.

    But then that's why they have alpha and beta tests, to identify as many of these issues as possible before release. 

  • EA_Atic's avatar
    EA_Atic
    Icon for DICE Team rankDICE Team
    4 years ago

    Let’s try to be constructive about the conversations, fully allowed to be concerned about a new game and its system but be constrictive about how your voice it.

    We have open BETA later this year perfect time to try out the new systems.

    I’m closing down the topic.

    /Atic

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