Portal will kill the other game modes.
The response that Portal is getting, I am pretty sure, this game mode will kill the other two. Unless DICE does something drastic. In a matter of weeks/months, DICE will understand the reasoning b...
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@RaginSam 1942? I mean, it had nothing to do with my point, but if you want a numerical answer, there you go even though it has no real value.
The point was those that preferred when battlefield was fine with it's own identity and added new game modes and experiments as DLC rather than try to copy what made other games successful and throw that into the core game at launch, a trend which arguably started with 4.
(i never minded the BC series, i even quite liked 2 though i saw it much like hardline, it's own thing)
I put quite a lot of time into 4 despite some early misgivings about weapons feeling generic vs 3 (3/4/2142 would probably be my favorites if i take off the nostalgia glasses regarding 1942/2), but 1 had a significantly lower time investment, and BF5 lost me within half a year or so and i'm not much of a fan to this day for a variety of reasons.
I'm not even going to talk about the battlefront games.
I did take some pains to point out i don't begrudge anyone their own preferences, but since you seem to have latched on to me not seeing HZ fitting into what i (subjectively) see as a BF game, i'll simply say i don't particularly care for them shoving carbon copies of other games' draws into BF's core, and/or slapping the franchise name on things that have little to nothing to do with "classic" BF without making it a branch title (like BC or Hardline)
If i want to play division's dark zone/tarkov/BR/hero shooter games I'll simply go play them, and i expect a certain formula when buying a BF game that's not really tied to those.
(that doesn't mean all change is bad, but 1 and 5 for instance did not work for me. Subjectively)
As i pointed out repeatedly before though, i also don't mind them throwing something like HZ in when i can simply opt out, though it's arguable that the specialists *obviously* made for HZ being thrown into the core game deviates from that preference, but i'm still going to actually play the finished product before i decide if it's a detriment or not, much like 1 and 5.
All that said, you seem to like the HZ concept so maybe that is the way forward for Dice and i'm in the minority, it's still just two slightly opposed viewpoints on a forum for now and time will tell either way.
And the only consequence of me not enjoying core or HZ is that i don't play them, or if portal also fails to scratch the itch, 2042 as a whole.
No bitterness or anything behind that, sometimes people simply don't like games for all kinds of subjective reasons, much like why i don't play Apex, CoD, or Overwatch. (just to throw some examples out there. Note that i didn't say they were bad games, just that i don't like them).
The point was those that preferred when battlefield was fine with it's own identity and added new game modes and experiments as DLC rather than try to copy what made other games successful and throw that into the core game at launch, a trend which arguably started with 4.
(i never minded the BC series, i even quite liked 2 though i saw it much like hardline, it's own thing)
I put quite a lot of time into 4 despite some early misgivings about weapons feeling generic vs 3 (3/4/2142 would probably be my favorites if i take off the nostalgia glasses regarding 1942/2), but 1 had a significantly lower time investment, and BF5 lost me within half a year or so and i'm not much of a fan to this day for a variety of reasons.
I'm not even going to talk about the battlefront games.
I did take some pains to point out i don't begrudge anyone their own preferences, but since you seem to have latched on to me not seeing HZ fitting into what i (subjectively) see as a BF game, i'll simply say i don't particularly care for them shoving carbon copies of other games' draws into BF's core, and/or slapping the franchise name on things that have little to nothing to do with "classic" BF without making it a branch title (like BC or Hardline)
If i want to play division's dark zone/tarkov/BR/hero shooter games I'll simply go play them, and i expect a certain formula when buying a BF game that's not really tied to those.
(that doesn't mean all change is bad, but 1 and 5 for instance did not work for me. Subjectively)
As i pointed out repeatedly before though, i also don't mind them throwing something like HZ in when i can simply opt out, though it's arguable that the specialists *obviously* made for HZ being thrown into the core game deviates from that preference, but i'm still going to actually play the finished product before i decide if it's a detriment or not, much like 1 and 5.
All that said, you seem to like the HZ concept so maybe that is the way forward for Dice and i'm in the minority, it's still just two slightly opposed viewpoints on a forum for now and time will tell either way.
And the only consequence of me not enjoying core or HZ is that i don't play them, or if portal also fails to scratch the itch, 2042 as a whole.
No bitterness or anything behind that, sometimes people simply don't like games for all kinds of subjective reasons, much like why i don't play Apex, CoD, or Overwatch. (just to throw some examples out there. Note that i didn't say they were bad games, just that i don't like them).
I think Portal is going to be very popular, but I don't see it killing the other modes. It will for sure be the place for people who don't want specialists, but All Out Warfare will still have a playerbase.
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