@Spinner1981Your ideology that you've described is not going to solve the real issue at hand with all of this. Two wrongs do not make a right, after all.
Now, with the real solution I've brought up...the exact situation you've presented would go away completely and instantly. There would be no such thing as farming anymore as the solution completely negates the need for it since there would be no more shared rewards.
This is the very best thing to do, IMO. It makes the most sense and we already know that it is easily do-able.
PvP players should love this idea as it will not threaten or diminish the idea of competitive rewards...unless of course they are really PvE players at heart who want the xp shared for obvious reasons.
You can't have shared XP/rewards without opening a can of worms that PvP players will not stand for, and that DICE will not do. The sharing idea was a huge mistake that was not noticed until immediately after release when they decided to curtail it. It was an unnoticed mistake that it ever got that far and they did their best trying to figure out a way to balance it out...which in the end really doesn't do a good job at satisfying anybody.
It is a huge reason why Ghosts decided to do it the way I've described...and they had zero complaints as far as the unlock rewards from either PvP or PvE players for that matter.
It makes good sense, offers full game play for bot players just as if they were playing competitive...AND it doesn't make PvP angry since PvE rewards will stay in PvE modes.
If someone can't see the sense in this idea, then they absolutely have unreasonable expectations and just want everything their own way instead of what works for the masses.
"PvP players should love this idea as it will not threaten or diminish the idea of competitive rewards"
You are either not reading, or you are not understanding what I previously said.
as stated before, all that "muh PVP is being threatened" already has been diminished to mean absolutely nothing. Due to previous times full xp was allowed, as well as the official zombie mode they released.
And now currently due to the Portal EMP XP Boost servers that offer full xp and progression, and xp and progression can be gained en masse compared to AOW or other normal Portal full xp servers, go see them for yourself. These EMP XP Boost servers let the PVP people gain a hell of a lot of xp and progression in one round. AOW, normal Portal servers and solo/coop offer little xp and progression compared to these.
The argument is completely void.
Its also not a reasonable expectation, its asking to get back what people paid for just like it was on release.
@Spinner1981 Ok, but you are now beginning to expose your way of thinking to be quite "farmer" like.
You are actually suggesting that 2 wrongs make a right, which is not an intelligent way to solve a problem. You don't solve a problem by offering a solution that provides complacency against game exploits. You're sounding like you support the idea of farming as a solution instead of actually fixing the issue which caused the farming in the first place.
You can't say that the issue I've explained (PvP'ers not liking "their stuff" unlocked against bots and then used against them in competitive arenas) is void simply because there's an un-sportsman like exploitation that can be used as a cheat to get around it. That way of thinking is absurd and is exactly how "farmers" think... but that is not how to build a good game, obviously.
I am a PvE player, and the reimplementation of bots into this franchise is the only reason I bought the game, for which I also paid extra for the premium content by the way which I cannot fully access playing PvE due to the restriction in earned PvE rewards. But at the same time I am reasonable and understand that the best solution is one that works well for both camps here...and this solution does just that.
Anyone who has a problem with having access to all the same unlocks//ribbons/missions/full xp, as you get in competitive MP only needing to keep it separated where it is locked to a PvE profile is just someone who, IMO, is being unreasonable and wants to be able to have an easier time in PvP honestly.
This all being said by a serious PvE player, mind you. My solution (not that its really mine, anyway as its been done before with success) is very simple and very responsible to both types of players.
I thought the solution would be obvious to all, but I guess not. Go head then...keep crying for what will NEVER come because you simply do not understand what the real issue is. They can't ignore the market that puts food on the table, period. PvP is king for now, as much as I think it's a sickness and all, hehe.
@BigShotttPeople that bought the game strictly for PvE knowing they could get full progression, got crapped on big time. They have been screwed out of the money they spent on the game.
