It is TOTAL AND COMPLETE BS at this point...they sold a product that CLEARLY STATED FULL PROGRESSION NO MATTER HOW YOU PLAY...as of now they have flat out LIED to the PVE/COOP community and STOLE OUR MONEY
^this is what I mean^ (what @phoremat just said) when I said many months ago that you guys are shooting us all in the foot by saying things like this which are technically untrue.
Monkey see, monkey do...and the blind leading the blind...stop mouthing things that you know nothing about (the fact is they only promised SHARED rewards, they never promised FULL rewards and in fact warned about the opposite in tweets) ...instead why don't you try actually solving the issue for EVERYONE involved.
This crying/screaming/tantrum crapola for a year now has gone in the wrong direction it needed to. Even I am ignoring it by now, and I am a DEVOUT PvE player who' also upset since day 1 about all this...but responsible solutions can sometimes be more productive than just endless ranting and the same 10 people going on and on (and getting ignored for obvious reasons).
Do you find that after a time your pleas have not worked? Then find another way, another solution that WILL work for heaven's sake (you're all acting like little kids). Stop with the whining already, and if you don't like MY solution then at least come up with something different instead of gimme gimme! whaaaa whaaaa, I need a whaaaambulence! :-)
I've given my opinion and also a valid solution that can end all this for next time around. I hope that a mod will get the suggestion to the team, and I think it would also be a better thing if some of you would come up with some other ideas that are really do-able and makes sense for everyone, including DICE.
In the meantime, and until this thread starts actually getting somewhere, I think I've had enough of it.
@Spinner1981 Use your head, this game is over (as far as major changes and development). They will never give us what we want now in BF2042 (full xp/ribbons/missions in PvE). It would be lovely but it's not going to happen, at least not before the new BF releases (and even then it's highly unlikely to happen).
It's one thing to make a demand for what you feel is right, but it's another to whine & harrass and say untrue things and then keep repeating it over and over again for over 2000 posts which are mostly just repeats of the same group of people anyway having a looong conversation. Do you think they don't notice this?
Don't you think that a petition signed by 100,000 PvP'ers would go a much longer way to showing DICE they have nothing to fear, rather than throwing a tantrum by constantly repeating yourself? No it'll never happen (the PvP mindset is indeed a sickness these days as people put too much of their own self worth into games) but at least it's trying to make something happen by taking action, even if it fails.
But just typing the same complaints over and over again by a mere 200 players doesn't get you much, as you can now see (at least I hope you see).
I'd love to see full xp and all the ribbons and missions available to me in solo/coop...but the thread has already made this clear a year ago by a couple hundred players...all the rest has just been fodder.It's not like there's 50k players complaining, heck theres not even 2,000 players complaining. Think about that.
I thought it would be a good idea to offer a suggestion at this point that would maybe curtail this from happening to us again, in the NEW version of BF that's coming down the road (or implemented in this one too would be great).
But from what you've said... it seems pretty clear to me that you don't just want access to all the stuff by playing PvE....YOU actually are forcing the issue that you MUST ALSO be allowed to use it in PvP. Regardless of what you think Dice promised, that is the mindset of someone who struggles in PvP and wants an easier time (less frustrating dying, not less time spent) unlocking their paid content. Sounds great to me too...but it's not a reasonable expectation is what DICE is telling you, in their own way.
I thought that my idea was fair to both, but no, it will not allow you to use PvE earned rewards in PvP. Good luck with that though...the PvP market will not have it, and THAT is your enemy in all this...it's not just DICE's fault, IMO...it's the mindset itself that we are fighting.
But again, I've said all this a year ago (about how serious and sick the PvP mindset can be for all of us...its extremely unhealthy truth be told). Yes, I understand that there are very well meaning and healthy well-adjusted PvP'ers out here (thank god right?)...but unfortunately, it's not the vast majority.
@BigShottt"sigh" Everything I have said is true, Im not explaining it to you again.
This game most certainly was advertised as full progression across all game modes, no matter how you play the game.
<sigh> the blind leading the blind... go ahead keep beating your heads against a wall instead of using the brain inside it.
This will be my final post regarding this. I am out of patience with people who just don't fully comprehend the facts or the real issue at hand and who keep coming back here to do nothing positive for our cause except whine.
This is also the very last time I will say this, but you (and anyone else who claims what you say about the ads) are very much mistaken. There were never any adverts saying that you could fully progress in the game playing solo/coop, NONE.
They only promised that you WOULD be able to PROGRESS in solo and that the two different modes would "share" so that whatever you earned in 1 mode would be transferred to the other mode automatically...and that was IT, nothing more.
In fact, if you followed their tweets closely back then, long before the game released, you would have also been well aware that their twitter guy back then mentioned there was a Tier system in place and that you would only be able to unlock EVERYTHING while playing PvP and that Solo would be limited. He even talked about how in solo you'd only be able to unlock to a certain degree, but not everything, which to this day still holds true.
But you know how people can be, because DICE had FULL XP and rewards in Solo turned on during release and then decided afterward to restrict it, we were all so very disappointed and angry...but then some people here began to misconstrue what was promised or advertised so that it fit with our agenda.
Yes, Im a PvE'er...but I'm also a grown adult and try to behave in a responsible manner. Yes, DICE made a big mistake and crapped on the PvE player and YES I wish they'd turn everything back on for PvE or even just Solo/Coop...but I also see why they're not doing it, even if it is wrong.
My idea was based on trying to alleviate their issue with turning it back on so that they would not face an uprising for doing so. I was trying to use some common sense to help satisfy everyone involved, instead of just ranting and raving which is all thats been going on here for the last 10 months.
Now I am done with this. If some of you still wish to make false claims as to what was promised then you're just ignoring the cold hard facts and not helping the situation at all. They never promised you what some of you are saying they promised, period. Yes they tried to do it at first by leaving it on (even though it was not promised) and failed (duh, of course you get farmers with shared xp). Now they ignored us and this thread and will continue to do so, until a better idea can be implemented which will take lots of time, I'm sorry to say.
My idea was also to help them see we are open to other ideas with bot-play because the last thing I want to see happen in the next game is for them to abandon the bot play and just go back to a SP campaign, and nothing else. That I would not purchase to play. I hope they use my suggestion and stick with letting PvE players have their fun playing on MP maps against bots while still getting to experience the Unlocks meta while doing so.
Sorry for the extremely long posts, thanks for reading though. Outta here!
With all the other skins out now for weapons and such, I don't really care about T1 skins anymore. I have all the weapons leveled up, so attachments aren't an issue, and it's the same for vehicles.
It would be nice to have attachment progression, but I think that the most reasonable requests, would be to allow BP and weekly challenges, and give us more options for Solo/Coop (choose teams, 128 larger maps, static weather events?).
Honestly though, they're probably gonna do all this right as the game's lifecycle is nearing it's end, and players are moving on...
