Re: 1OHK vehicles should spawn faster.

@Man_iLoveFishingWith the way networking and latency are, it is inevitable that if something were to be accurately shown it would look like this, to an extent. You can observe the same thing with whatever has lots of tracers, like wildcats, jets or nightbirds that look like they're missing. This is "working as intended", the game shows you where the lizzle is, the alternative would be to lie and show the lizzle taking a trajectory that never happened but is closer to you on your screen. Not impossible to implement (in theory) but such a solution also wouldn't be perfect and might tend to fly through solid walls. Pick your poison?

That being said, I feel the delay in 2042 is higher than it should be, air vehicles have particularly broken hitreg on them (very noticeable with any slower ROF weapon), and the TGMs also have pretty broken networking. It's normal to hit an air vehicle, get static, then somehow the lizzle recovers and you flew through it, or to miss but have the game count it as a hit. I've had cases where I've shot the TGM down, got an XP event for it, then something like 300ms later it still hits me. In some extreme cases I've dealt full damage to ground vehicles when hitting terrain near them, though this one could be bad splash damage values. For some reason lizzles already ignore directional damage and deal the same damage to a lot of different vehicles, e.g. 27 to MAVs, and to RAMs, so it wouldn't surprise me if their splash is fried too.

However... Even if the networking issues were fixed, people would still hit you.

@Lady_OneYep... And based on these visuals i make my moves. These clips are particularly show how off TGM can go. And ofc i have instances where i'm shooting aircrafts and flies trough. Or when i'm shooting TGM projectile with guns and seeing it taking impacts but keeps going.

I am not sure I understand what you are trying to say at this point. It is true that the TGM seems to be somewhat lagging in the video you linked to. But to move around quickly in the first place, and to hit a small NB directly with TGM is something that requires a high level of skill, and I don't see anything unreasonable about that. Vehicles are one of our limited resources. If you eliminate a threat, I don't see anything wrong with not encountering it for a while. You seem to want to keep the NB exclusive, but resources should be shared by the whole team, so if you enjoyed some bonus time with the NB, then go back to working with infantry on the objective. Wanting to play with vehicles all the time is a luxury that goes against the design of this game. Players who are not competent enough to play well with infantry should not be using vehicles. It is more problematic that good players cannot use NBs freely in situations where they are tactically necessary than it is that you cannot get up and ride NBs all the time. Players who are properly involved in the objective, like control, are the ones who should be using powerful vehicles.

The TGM was nerfed the last time all the pilots sweats complained about it, so DICE totally nerfed the controls and turn rate - meaning that it's now a lot easier to dodge as the missile can't turn fast enough to adjust.  Unless you're flying straight into it, it's a skill issue....

Yeah, this is the forums problem here now. Even video provided is "all good, should be like that". Wtb jets? Stealth heli?

With 800 hours i see this latency delay daily and someone comes here to tell me how to dodge. How can i dodge it when it flies past me and not knowing will it hit me or not? Wake the hell up please.

About nerfs, tgm is not hard to use. This is skill issue now. And helicopters had also nerfs, disability, repair, flares recharge times. Again, i am asking freeze time drop and people are losing sht here now.

I can’t get Lis’ TGM rockets to turn much regardless of how much I try to adjust things in Settings.

That’s on Xbox.

@UNL1M1T3D_P0W3RAnd yet you are declining my video.

EDIT: We can't ever have reasonable conversation when you speculate how someone is flying, not acknowledging situation and flying physics including altitude and velocity of helicopter it self. I created video to show you how off it can go, yet you go for "pilot scrubs" that's why I'm gonna ask you, either you stay off my topics repeating same stuff or be reasonable. So i'm asking, could you or not?

Thanks.

The subject is not nb here, yes i do play it a lot. I dont need to be either fooled. Its straight bs on my screen. Easy alt f4.

But questioning whats right and wrong, tell me, how much it hurts you if vehicle spawns 15 seconds earlier?

The longer the wait the better for vehicles.

My general problem with vehicles in 2042 is how it feels like I do not get to spend enough time in them. Compared to previous BF games

The slots that are too few for the team size

The number of modes that lack most of the vehicles altogether.

The Punishment timer that tries to block you from respawning on the same vehicle category before some rando can.

For the most of the games lifecycle most of the infantry could carry enough firepower to solo a tank... and there could be like 16-64 of them (if they decide to use their advantage instead of derping).

The insanity of some specialist perks like the hookshot.

The way most vehicles (other than the nightbird) are quite clumsy between their acceleration turn and turret speed and angle.

But ironically, there are still times where drivers and pilots have a very good time. Simply because the infantry chose not to give them enough reprisal and not because the vehicle is too good.

Personally as a player, I will devote as much effort as required to take out a vehicle that is annoying me, I do not get why others do not want to.

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@UP_Hawxxeye wrote:

But ironically, there are still times where drivers and pilots have a very good time. Simply because the infantry chose not to give them enough reprisal and not because the vehicle is too good.

Personally as a player, I will devote as much effort as required to take out a vehicle that is annoying me, I do not get why others do not want to.

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Because people know all too well it makes no real difference - the guy will be back within minutes in a fresh vehicle.

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@Man_iLoveFishing wrote:

But questioning whats right and wrong, tell me, how much it hurts you if vehicle spawns 15 seconds earlier?

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How much it hurts you to wait 15 secs longer?

Comparing vehicles and infantry 1:1 is ridiculous.

Vehicles are (naturally) much more powerful than infantry.