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Re: Between the Cheating and the Imbalance..

I can tell you I just left several games where I get shot through walls and objects repeatedly and there's no line of sight since I can see who shot me once dead. Either cheating, bad collision detection or bad hit detection, you pick which. I have top end hardware and fast business-class internet so not lag if neither of us moving. We have all had that moment where we are counter-sniping each other and no one moves and you get shot through the wall or object you are behind. What's worse is when you have a clear line of sight but the rock or object blocks your shot, but the enemy can still hit you.

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  • Lol welcome to 2042. No one is cheating. I have 1300 hours and can only recall 2 cheaters. The average Conquest all chat will have you believing 22-12 TimmyTom0826 on the other team is cheating about 4 times a day however.

  • flcrm's avatar
    flcrm
    Rising Veteran
    2 years ago

    @Agent10_Alex  написал (-а):

    Lol welcome to 2042. No one is cheating. I have 1300 hours and can only recall 2 cheaters. The average Conquest all chat will have you believing 22-12 TimmyTom0826 on the other team is cheating about 4 times a day however.


    I immediately realized that those who believe that there are no cheaters in the game are playing the dull Conquest mode. Play the normal Breakthrough mode and you will see cheaters on a regular basis. With k/d ratio like 90/6 for ex.

  • Ya, all I play is Breakthrough. Conquest is weak and slow. 

  • That's not cheating. That's quite normal. I've seen people go 60-0 regularly. There's many reasons why that happens, and its not cheaters. You literally have no proof of your claim, and in fact I bet if you posted the stats of the people you are accusing of cheating, their HS% is in the 20s. I guarantee it.

  • flcrm's avatar
    flcrm
    Rising Veteran
    2 years ago

    [Screenshot removed: Don't "name and shame."]

    On what basis can you say that this is not cheating if you have no other explanation? What does HS% have to do with it?

    Ок, can you explain such k/d ratio 92/3?

    I made this screenshot on the same day as the previous post.

    I can give you a lot of such screenshots. It's just that you don't play, as I understand it, and you don't know what's really going on.

  • Alethes's avatar
    Alethes
    Seasoned Ace
    2 years ago
    @flcrm I also play only Breakthrough and Rush (I cannot stand Conquest for the same reasons as you mentioned) and I regularly get scores like those you screenshot'ed; and I certainly don't cheat. On a very good match I can get 70 to 80 kills and die between 10 to 20 times. And I do not consider myself to be a top player.

    Signs of cheating, to me, are very obvious: E.S.P., wallhacking and statistical imbalance towards headshots.

    BFV is rife with it; 2042 I can count with my hands the number of times I perceived it—not many.
  • SpoolaZ's avatar
    SpoolaZ
    Seasoned Ace
    2 years ago
    @Agent10_Alex
    "I have 1300 hours and can only recall 2 cheaters."

    Then the cheat makers' promises of invisible cheats seem to work and keep you completely unaware of what's going on. And who of these wants to be singled out as a simple cheater by anyone, then the purpose of even using these products is lost.
  • flcrm's avatar
    flcrm
    Rising Veteran
    2 years ago

    @TheseusJason  написал (-а):
    @flcrmI also play only Breakthrough and Rush (I cannot stand Conquest for the same reasons as you mentioned) and I regularly get scores like those you screenshot'ed; and I certainly don't cheat. On a very good match I can get 70 to 80 kills and die between 10 to 20 times. And I do not consider myself to be a top player.

    Signs of cheating, to me, are very obvious: E.S.P., wallhacking and statistical imbalance towards headshots.

    BFV is rife with it; 2042 I can count with my hands the number of times I perceived it—not many.

    As a result, he had more than 100 kills. I also sometimes did something like 85/15, but very rarely. So don't tell me what 100/6 can do without cheats. To make a lot of kills, you need to actively rush. But this entails a large number of deaths, because a large number of people sit in ambush and wait for you to run past to shoot you in the back or you can get caught in the crossfire.

    The main thing in the cheats is not an aimbot at all, but a wallhack, because you can see all the enemies and you can choose such a route to kill everyone one by one without being accidentally killed from an ambush or under crossfire. And aimbot is an add-on for the very crooked. If you do not understand the elementary, then it is clear that you will not see any cheats and abnormal k/d ratio will not make you think.

    P.S. What statistical imbalance in the direction of headshots do you consider to be an indicator of the use of an aimbot?

    P.P.S. If there is a free cheat and the anti-cheat does not work, how many people are there who are ready to cheat? That's right, a lot. I see them regularly.

  • flcrm's avatar
    flcrm
    Rising Veteran
    2 years ago

    @SpoolaZ  написал (-а):
    @Agent10_Alex
    "I have 1300 hours and can only recall 2 cheaters."

    Then the cheat makers' promises of invisible cheats seem to work and keep you completely unaware of what's going on. And who of these wants to be singled out as a simple cheater by anyone, then the purpose of even using these products is lost.

    Let him watch the video of cheaters in BF 2042 on YouTube, maybe he will begin to understand something.

  • Alethes's avatar
    Alethes
    Seasoned Ace
    2 years ago
    @flcrm I never said there are no cheaters in 2042. I reiterate that I've only perceived a few. I play BFV a lot and can intuitively tell who's cheating—due to unrealistic kills and performance. How can it be that I can tell the difference in BFV but not in 2042?...

    Also, I find it much easier to rack plenty of kills in 2042 than in BFV.
    There have been some players getting 100-120 kills and only 5-10 deaths. Evidence of cheating is circumstantial based only on K/D. Maybe they're just exceptional players...? Not everyone has the same skill and/or time and willingness to practice.

    I only start finding it strange when odd things happen. E.g. the same player consistently knowing where everyone is (as you described); unrealistic reflex times (less than ~0,15/0,2 sec.) on a 1v1; percentage of headshots above ~20%; bullets finding me behind objects, clearly without LoS; and the trophy one: spawn where there are no spawn beacons neither teammates neither point being capped. (Last week there was a guy spawning in that little recess in point B in 'Op. Underground' while there were 5 of us capping the point, no spawn beacon (we had checked beforehand), and he just spawned there out of the blue—I saw it myself as I was right next to it. In BF1 there was a guy running around invisible (there are YT vids showing it).
  • @flcrm If you are talking about cheaters, and you say this - "What does HS% have to do with it?" - that tells everyone else all we need to know. 92-3 is your claim for a cheater...? Then you want to say - "It's just that you don't play, as I understand it, and you don't know what's really going on." - So you don't understand that, just the same as you don't understand cheaters, you just come to very ridiculous conclusions. I don't play, right? And you do, and that's why you can't fathom how anyone could go 92-3.

  • @SpoolaZ Loool. But y'all are crying cheaters with no proof, which is usually always an inaccurate claim. Lmao.

  • Says the guy who asks what HS% has to do with actually discerning who is cheating. You just sound like a fool crying about the game's problems and blaming it on cheating. And telling me I don't play lmao.

  • SpoolaZ's avatar
    SpoolaZ
    Seasoned Ace
    2 years ago

    It is not difficult to figure out who is the reliable source of these.

    Anyone who claims to have only seen 2 cheaters in several hundred hours of playing or the revenue the cheat sellers make from their services.

  • flcrm's avatar
    flcrm
    Rising Veteran
    2 years ago

    [Screenshot removed: Don't "name and shame."]

    And this is only one first sector of map, where it all ended.

    "I've only seen two cheaters in 1000 hours of play..." I'll show you two cheaters in a couple of days. Therefore, either you are blind, or... I don't even know which one.


  • @flcrm wrote:

    [Screenshot removed: Don't "name and shame."]

    And this is only one first sector of map, where it all ended.

    "I've only seen two cheaters in 1000 hours of play..." I'll show you two cheaters in a couple of days. Therefore, either you are blind, or... I don't even know which one.



    Some people would just rather ignore a problem and live in a fantasy world rather than admit there's a problem so it can be fixed. If he wants to believe cheating doesn't exist let him. He'll be happier for it. All we have to do is recognize that people like him are why * doesn't get fixed.

  • So you go and post the stats of a player with a 60% HS. Am i speaking to a real person? You were just defending someone who said HS% does not matter. Then you go and pull up a random profile with cheater stats. What are you doing? Lol. I'm genuinely curious before I waste my time responding further.

  • @flcrm Hey newsflash bud, you still haven't posted any cheater stats. Care to tell me how many hours you have, since you clearly don't have many and seem very unusually butthurt about my "1000"
  • Agent10_Alex's avatar
    Agent10_Alex
    2 years ago

    No, what I beleive doesn't exist is a standard of intelligence and ability to read. Please enlighten me how someone who has seen cheaters "believes cheating doesn't exist". My mind is blown how the three of you are so unable to use any amount of braincells right now. It's unbelievable. 


  • @Agent10_Alex wrote:

    No, what I beleive doesn't exist is a standard of intelligence and ability to read. Please enlighten me how someone who has seen cheaters "believes cheating doesn't exist". My mind is blown how the three of you are so unable to use any amount of braincells right now. It's unbelievable. 


    It's quite evident nobody wants to give you the time of day anymore. Just give up while you're behind.

  • Agent10_Alex's avatar
    Agent10_Alex
    2 years ago

    @BLADEWARRIOR447 Weird comment. Really weird, but anyway.

    It's you guys who are stuck in a little echo chamber here and clearly have no idea how to identify a cheater, no comprehension of the skill some players have, and crying about scores. Lmao no one is giving any background on how these players got their scores. Just one post of a cheater's actual stats, a day after I am told HS% doesn't matter. Yet the statistics posted had a 98% SWS HS as one of the main weapons lmao.

    Btw the phrase is "give up while your ahead" lmfao. Time for you to take your own advice.

    Literally any decent player will tell you cheating is not a problem in this game. But again.. echo chamber.

  • Hudson1531's avatar
    Hudson1531
    Seasoned Ace
    2 years ago

    Definitely interesting stats. 

    it appears he turns his game enhancements on and off which would show the up and down effect with his K/D, and also to avoid being pinned when reported in game. 

    Very suspect at best with 32hr play time as well. 

  • hollamf's avatar
    hollamf
    Seasoned Adventurer
    2 years ago

    Past post I actually posted a video of a player sitting in the middle of the map just mowing the whole lobby with a lmg and was invisble. covered up the name and everything but the mods decided to delete the post. There is proof but EA/Dice does not like people showing thier anti-cheat does not work. BTW I posted that clips many months ago and I believe the cheating is alot worse now.

  • EA_Antonio's avatar
    EA_Antonio
    Icon for Community Manager rankCommunity Manager
    2 years ago

    Hi all,

    We have a rule to close any discussions related to cheating. This measure is in place because we cannot investigate cheating directly via forum. You can find more details here.

    If you suspect any instances of cheating in our games, I highly suggest referring to our article on reporting players. It provides valuable guidance on how to address such concerns effectively. 

    Several posts had to be edited to comply with the forum rules & guidelines, I'm now closing this thread.

    - Antonio

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