Engi’s are extremely weak and not fun in 2042
I can carry 5 AT or 5 AA rockets plus 5 AT mines BF4. Or I can carry 5 Stingers plus 2 AA mines. BF1 Support can kill tanks quickly w 2 Limpets and an AT nade. And that’s w infinite Limpet amm...
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You're not talking about an engineer you're talking about rambo with a skill set. An engineer is going to need ammo from a team mate. 1 man shouldnt be able to just causally stroll around the map with endless rockets / AA / AT. I'm not saying they shouldn't get some love, but what you're saying is wild. Under the same general principles, a medic should be able to revive themselves after death too
@AuMordumNah. I’m using DICE’s terms. Im
using DICE’s Engineer blueprints from previous BF games. I’m asking for nothing extraordinary or outrageous.
Nobody wants Rambo. That’s patently false and and laughable. Nobody is asking for endless rockets. That’s a second set of falsehoods you’re trying to lay on this thread. Very disingenuous of you. And the medic example? Bruh why are you being so ridiculous? You’d be laughed right out of any junior high debate.Can we please stick to facts and drop the outrageously false examples and hyperbole?
We just want Engineers in 2042 that are just as deadly to vehicles as they are in previous BF titles. Engi’s that are FUN and as effective as Engineers in previous BF titles . Nothing more.There’s no denying that 2042 Engi’s are infinitely weaker than they’re Engineer counterparts as we've seen in previous BF titles. It’s not even close.
Engi’s in 2042 feel weak and ineffective. They’re just not fun and are terrible at their primary role compared to Engineers in previous BF titles.
- @Zhukov211 DICE could start by putting resupply stations at the spawn.
If you want previous iterations of the engi, you should expect previous iterations of the aircraft, bf2042 helos and jets are extremely, and i mean very very very Much EXTREMELY underpowered. They're slow af, and now less agile and the focal point for the miniguns is nerfed, if you can't kill vehicles with an engi, you're the problem. skill issue
One of the more comical things in this game is when DICE messes with gadgets that literally only 2 Specialists can use, not even an entire class, just Boris and Crawford. They were already the worst two specialists in the game, then they nerf the only useful gadgets they had.
What's wrong with Rambo? You can't rely on rando's so the game should support being self sufficient. The team is still working towards the same goal but now they can spread out to various objectives and not worry what anyone else is doing.
@AuMordum wrote:...1 man shouldnt be able to just causally stroll around the map with endless rockets....
You mean like a pilot/gunner or an armoured vehicle driver? Endless supply of rockets, flares, APS, shells, and now most have thermal sights. Even IF they can find an ammo crate, an engineer can only replenish 1 missile at a time. By which time the tank/helo has healed. Really balanced DICE, nice job. An Engineer should have enough ammo/gadget to take out a vehicle solo. With reload speed and lack of cover for the engineer, it's then down to the skill of the driver/pilot to avoid/take out the threat before it takes them out.
I agree with OP, engineers at the moment are utterly useless and vehicles are only getting stronger/more in number.
It isnt any fun being an engineer right now. Plus all the vehicles feel OP. Feels like it takes 5/6 rockets sometimes to take stuff down
@MADMAC50K wrote:You mean like a pilot/gunner or an armoured vehicle driver? Endless supply of rockets, flares, APS, shells, and now most have thermal sights. Even IF they can find an ammo crate, an engineer can only replenish 1 missile at a time. By which time the tank/helo has healed. Really balanced DICE, nice job. An Engineer should have enough ammo/gadget to take out a vehicle solo. With reload speed and lack of cover for the engineer, it's then down to the skill of the driver/pilot to avoid/take out the threat before it takes them out.
I agree with OP, engineers at the moment are utterly useless and vehicles are only getting stronger/more in number.
I want to point out that you seem to have missed the nuance of how vehicles are much more limited in numbers than the soldiers.
In conquest there may be 32 to 64 people per MBT, helicopter etc.
As soon as there are at least two people using their launcher at the same time, the vehicle is in serious trouble unless it can kill them first or retreat in time.
All that said, the Engineers DO need to become more fun to play. Lis is way ahead of the other two in what she offers, especially vs the ground vehicles.
@UP_Hawxxeye wrote:
@MADMAC50K wrote:You mean like a pilot/gunner or an armoured vehicle driver? Endless supply of rockets, flares, APS, shells, and now most have thermal sights. Even IF they can find an ammo crate, an engineer can only replenish 1 missile at a time. By which time the tank/helo has healed. Really balanced DICE, nice job. An Engineer should have enough ammo/gadget to take out a vehicle solo. With reload speed and lack of cover for the engineer, it's then down to the skill of the driver/pilot to avoid/take out the threat before it takes them out.
I agree with OP, engineers at the moment are utterly useless and vehicles are only getting stronger/more in number.
I want to point out that you seem to have missed the nuance of how vehicles are much more limited in numbers than the soldiers.
In conquest there may be 32 to 64 people per MBT, helicopter etc.
As soon as there are at least two people using their launcher at the same time, the vehicle is in serious trouble unless it can kill them first or retreat in time.
All that said, the Engineers DO need to become more fun to play. Lis is way ahead of the other two in what she offers, especially vs the ground vehicles.
Even if people use their launchers at the same time, it takes too many direct hits to take out a vehicle. With APS, heals, and flares to deal with any rockets in between. Engineers then have to reload (too slow), lock on again (too slow), and fire IF the vehicle is still out in the open (usually not they've retired behind cover the heal while they wait for the Engineers to run out of ammo....)
The only effective way to deal with vehicles at the moment, is other vehicles, or C5 if you can get close enough. The engineer class is more or less redundant....
