@-DFA-Thump You should re-read my entire post slowly.
I've already called them out for where I feel they went wrong. I do not "support", as you said, what they removed...and this is what YOU and most others are upset about.
To be fair though...which lets face it, most are not being fair in these forums...the game still does mostly feel like a BF game once you are playing in a match (not 128 players though which is too chaotic as I have been saying since beta where nobody listened) ... yet Portal makes up for alot of that, tbh.
As far as deceit is concerned, I'm sure you'll find their lawyers have made sure that all textual and verbal claims made by DICE during marketing cannot be legally construed for being deceitful... but that being said I can certainly sympathize with players (including myself) who feel mislead or misinformed in certain ways and are disappointed. But there is really nothing new about all this and has been the same rinse repeat BS going on within the gaming industry for the last 10+ years now.
As per usual I think that DICE will use the next 12 months to continue working on things as they attempt to improve and expand the game, while also re-implementing what they can at this point so that, in the end, the majority will be mostly satisfied.
It's all about money Dice/EA could not careless if you died tomorrow so get a grip.
Dice/EA have ditched the game already.
They will pay someone min wage to post blogs were on it.
Then out source the problems at a maximum cost and so nothing is sorted because maximum cost is pennies
@Kona_uk baseless remarks.
Nobody's ditched the game yet, relax and get a grip. You all cry that DICE spews non-truths about their game but then you yourselves just keep doing the same thing and are no better. Try taking the higher road instead of monkey see, monkey do all the time.
Show some sort of responsibility for what you say instead of spreading false rumors like that.
@BigShotttIt's ditched they out source now it's released that's how it works. When people like you defend them then there is no hope. Have you actually played the game?
Point me to a Game Dev Company that will care if I died tomorrow?
@RazZ_NaiX but that's the point i making!! people defend them but for what reason? Dice have no loyalty to you otherwise the game would have been delayed it's all about £/$
Not defending anyone, just correcting your spreading of misinformation.
Read some of my other posts for the last 60 days and you'll find me to be quite upfront and fair in my assessments to both sides.
The game is not abandoned, and subcontracting has nothing to do with the matter as that process has always been used actively in all software development. No matter what the employed status is of any particular coder contributing to a project, DICE and EA are still legally responsible for that code and also to their customers.
You and others like you who are simply hell bent angry and not thinking clearly or making any sense need to stop talking already and STOP PLAYING the damn game and do a chargeback, if ytou are really that unhappy with a product. Coming here and spreading false rumors is not going to make your future gaming any more satisfying...but taking real action WILL.
@BigShottt You are defending them. No misinformation the game released in a broken state? Have you ever seen a hovercraft drive up the side of a skyscraper? Also jump from one building to another? Have you ever seen a smg out perform a assualt rifle at mid range. It's just basic's and that just 2 examples and that's just the first thing you see straight away so how was it released like that?
They took money knowing the game was broken. You fire a rocket at the skirt of hover craft and nothing they just carry on at what point did not one dev/tester think hang on that's a weak point it should be disabled at that point..
Your trying to makeout there honest people who would not mis-inform you well they have and if you cannot see it well you cannot be helped.
I can not get a refund because i pre ordered and started the game even though i played less than 10hrs like the free trial offers!!
Exactly what a lot of us thought reading that review by an ex game changer (there were loads of passionate people who signed up and were game changers). Still people try to defend it but it was clear even from the beta something was off and there had been radical bad decisions at HQ that created this game.
It seems this is the way forward for them now, the 'old' BF is dead and they are creating their new 'meme apex' based battlefield, hence the clue in the terrible after battle screen cringe and the comments of a free to play BF coming next. Apex is also a EA game so they probably want full cohesion between the two.
The empty bland maps (which are worse graphically than panned graphics of new halo) The 128 players decision seems to have stifled the artistic, technical and gameplay design of this entire game. I think all the designs, left out out things etc were all trying to meet the brief of 128 players
@Kona_uk First of all...you are now attempting to double-talk and back-track your way out of what you have said and what my entire point is pertaining to when I said that you are spreading a false rumor and misinforming people when you said that DICE has abandoned this game, as nothing could be further from the truth, at this early stage. This is simply FALSE information yet you are spreading it on thick. You are free to speak your mind about true things that are bothering you about the game...but you are NOT free to spread foolish lies.
Next...we already know about the 50 bugs that can be silly, annoying and in some cases even game breaking...nobody is arguing those points and those were not the points you and I have been speaking about in this thread at all...we were discussing the fact that you are attempting to spread false information about the game being abandoned...this is obvious to anyone with even average reading comprehension and retention. Many of the bugs you speak of will more than likely be fixed, in time, as they typically have been in this franchise's history.
...and lastly...you have every right to ask your issuing bank for a charge-back on the amount you've paid for the game if you simply claim it is in a broken state and the vendor who sold it to you is not cooperative. You are NOT forced to put up with this if you are sincerely not enjoying yourself. Doesn't matter what Steam says or anyone else...it is between you and your bank so please don't say that you can't get a refund. You just need to do a little leg work and fill out a simple form, done.
...and now I'M done too. As disappointed as I am myself with certain aspects of the game I also believe in being honest...and I know SO MANY people who gave a negative review yet are still playing, and more importantly, ENJOYING the game.
I have not defended DICE in this thread, and do not believe they deserve defending...I have defended TRUTH and fairness. Nothing I state is false, as your claims have clearly been.
I am also a player in this, and will no longer waste my time discussing these issues with unreasonable/immature personalities.
See you out there on the BF2042 servers, I'm sure you'll be found there (not enjoying yourself of course)!
@BigShottt- You are, sadly, wasting your time.
The "mimimimi" crew are deafeningly loud, and the complaints and general nastiness of the forum are supported by anger (justified or not), baseless assertion, faulty inference, appeals to majority and no true Scotsman fallacies.
Pointing out that there is no evidence for the wild claims (or to support anything that the ex-Game Changer said as it's all in a private Discord, where everyone was shiny and happy and everyone had a waifu and cancer had been cured) will fall on deaf ears.
Some of these people are allowed to drive. Some even have the vote.
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@BigShotttThis is a pretty terrible take there bud. EA/DICE chased the APEX/Warzone/Siege fad and abandoned what made battlefield great. They did so fully knowing their intentions while selling the "we're bringing back the old school" message. To pat them on the * saying "good game" is just a poor idea and makes me question why you would support this level of deceit.
They did bring back the old school large maps in the main game and brought back older games in Portal so where's the deceit?
@BigShotttReally if i do a chargeback my account will be suspended so i lose other games i paid for. Not pc gaming..
Look it's a full price online only game with many game breaking bugs.
I could have sussed these bugs in a hour but they released it knowing it was broken.So who were the game testers were they paid? EA forced the release knowing the issues. 3 years they have worked on this you telling me it's ok. You will not see me online if you play on pc to many cheats already. If you try to come back and say they ban cheats they ban no one they come back in a hour with new spoofed hardware etc. But there are cheats out there they have never banned anyone from as cannot detect them. They will not invest to catch them because the cost is to high and they just cannot be bothered.
@Kona_ukThey are the BF3/4 equvilants to your BF2042 hovercraft example.
BF1's Helriegel also had questionable characteristics similar to BF2042's SMGs.
Point is, the examples you have given are not unique to BF2042 and similar oddities can be found in pretty much every Battlefield game.
Do you want me to find the video of a LAV on Dragon Valley bouncing off the Lake into the air and shooting down a helicopter?
@Trokey66Do you want me to find the video of a LAV on Dragon Valley bouncing off the Lake into the air and shooting down a helicopter?
I think everyone needs to see that regardless of this conversation.
Do you remember the glitch with LAVs in BF2 where you could turn it into an F1 car with a Logitech MX mouse (with the flywheel on free motion) and mapping accelerate to mouse wheel +?
That was awesome.
