Re: I Like specialist core design but crocodile dundee Skins is Ridiculous inBF2042

52 Replies

-DFA-Thump
4 years ago
What we're seeing here was the plan from the start. Create hero shooter, use battlefield title to lure customers, sell macrotransaction. This is EA's end game.
Stew360
4 years ago
@-DFA-Thump It has nothing to do with specialist or classes or Hero ..

Fortnite has NO CLASSES NO HERO yet Fornite sold more silly banana skins than Rainbowsix or Apex legends combined . .

Stop making things up and complain about the real issues wich is not specialist design or loadout but silly or out of place skins themselves ..

They could have sold silly skins with traditional classes or no classes no specialist ..

Skins silly one are a problem to me not anything else unrelated to it ..
BaknPowder
4 years ago
Community: We want operator skins, or gun skins or vehicle skins!
Dice: Here's a new unique skin you can unlock for Mackay.
Community: What the hell is this, don't put your dumb operator skins in the game.
-DFA-Thump
4 years ago
@Stew360 The specialists are a problem and about 100 other things with this iteration of "Battlefield "(maps, weapons, vehicles, balancing, spawns, Hazard Zone, portal nerf). If you can't see what EA/DICE are doing, then I got nothing for you.
-DFA-Thump
4 years ago
@BaknPowder It's not that they put skins in it, it's that they are continuing to push their hero shooter wet dream.
UNL1M1T3D_P0W3R
4 years ago
The weekly rewards are quite weak, better than nothing but basically are nothing. I didn't even get the 2nd week award (PP-28 skin) as one of the requirements didn't track lol, will we still be rewarded these that were missed due to bugs?
Stew360
4 years ago
@-DFA-ThumpBF 2042 is by far the most balanced BF ever made so close to launch ... Pretty much everything isnt to overpowered or underpower i have mastery 40 + on more than half of the weapons and vehicles so i know exactly what i am talking about ..
Please stop trying to inject an unrelated narative into my complain wich is about Silly AF skins ..

The core design of the game is brillant regardless if you want to see it or not mate ..
-DFA-Thump
4 years ago
@Stew360its design is so brilliant that only 10% of the community remains. Now that's EA levels of success. So successful that even cheat creators have stopped providing services because of the state of the game (i.e. no customers / the level of broken this game is breaks their cheats).
Stew360
4 years ago
@-DFA-Thump Compleatly false and some poeples left because their hardware simply cannot run the game at more than 25 to 40 fps wich they see as unenjoyable ..

Also reddit " influencers " have set a trend of drama and " its the cool things " to do to hate on the game bullying any contents creators being positive about the game .. This drama loving generation is really a concern for sanity .

Thats said concurents players isnt total players most players play between 1 to 3 hours a day wich mean in 24 hours if there is roughly 8k players connecter every hours for 24 hours its about 100k individual players still playing the game daily on steam only so if we assume its similar for all platform we look at numbers around 500k players who play daily it aint bad at all nor catastrophical ... BF4 had almost no more than 10k players left after 1 month after launch and barely 50k ish came back afyer it was fixed a year after launch so 500k+ figure is still pretty good 2 months after launch ...
Stew360
4 years ago
@-DFA-ThumpLets take a look at new world players peak concurrent and now few months after launch ? 900k + to 60k now ? And its a MMO not a shooter game
-DFA-Thump
4 years ago
@Stew360 Talk about spreading falsehoods. Please show me where these influencers are harassing content creators? Link please.

That's 8K players online at any given time...which is weak. Not to mention that a game that "sold" 4 million copies, that says that over 87.5% of the player base has left. THAT is indeed about 10% of the community remaining. Math will math.
-DFA-Thump
4 years ago
@Stew360Why did you bring up New World? How does new world's numbers bolster BF2042? How does it make EA/DICE's decision to chase a hero shooter a valid business decision? Should I go tell you about Valheim's numbers, or stardew valley? Another game's failure doesn't make BF2042 good...it just makes them both bad for different reasons.
Stew360
4 years ago
@-DFA-Thump Its far from weak planetside 2 never had a higher peak than 29k on steam and was between 1k and 5 k for a decade the game still very alive and get updated non stop ... Insurgency have a 1 to 2 k average on steam and so on..

Many contents creator like Levelcap , Squid etc.. have said that they are attacked for liking the game or being positive about it ..

And it all started with Reddit toxic drama loving folks controlling the narative

Also stop derailing my thread ..

Its about not wanting silly cosmetics in the game .. Not about injecting unrelated narative .. You hate the game ? Fine no need to waste your time in a forum of a game you hate mate . Find a game you love mate
Stew360
4 years ago
@-DFA-ThumpYour math are incorect there is at least 500k + individual players daily not concurent a monday and 700k+ Total not concurent the week end . Most poeoples dont play the game everyday they play about 3 days a week for few hours so those 500k players are not the same everyday beside the hardcore players wich are a fraction of a fraction so this 500k players are actually over 1.5 to 2 millions of the 4 millions copy solds so nearly 50% of the playerbase still play a bit every week
-DFA-Thump
4 years ago
@Stew360 I've watched level cap a good bit, haven't heard him say that he's been harassed to the point of not making new, positive content. He might have caught flack from some of those in the community who are frustrated...but pretending like there are pitchfork carrying rioters "bullying" creators is quite the step.

You brought up the specialists in the first place bud, not me so I don't see how I derailed anything. I will address that issue because people will read that and think everything is fine with this game. It's not and you touting otherwise is disingenuous. I have a bunch of games I do love and play...this is definitely not one of them and I'll voice dissent where I think it is needed. I'm glad you enjoy this game but you're pushing your own "everything is fine" narrative and in my viewpoint (for battlefield as a title) it is not.
Bolvard
4 years ago
@-DFA-Thump I allready „argued“ with this guy, he will defend this game in any way to his dieing last breath.
The copium is strong here.

But let’s not forget that even Cheatsites and developeners abandoning this game becouse theyr Cheats are not working properly in this buggy mess and the total playercount and payers isnt worth the time to update or create new ones.

This is a good thing but still… let that sink in for a moment.
Yesterday when I came home and saw the crocodile dundee Skin I was thinking this is an out of season april fool joke….
Can’t wait to see end of round scenes with this skin, pure cringe incoming
BaknPowder
4 years ago
The hat doesnt even look that bad if you just combo it with a differnent outfit selection.
2Timothy3
Seasoned Hotshot
4 years ago
@Stew360 If the design is so brilliant why have the player numbers plummeted? You don't even need Steam for it, just see how many of your games include bots.

The general idea of reorganizing and evolving the class system I'm on board with. The Specialists are unnecessary, cringe candy that break immersion and faction identity. Faction identity and specifics are a core part of Battlefield. As is the player feeling like they are just another grunt.

Why not have a better class system, with personal avatars and grounded skins?
Trokey66
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@2Timothy3 If we are going to use the number of bots encountered then PS5 population is very healthy.
UP_Hawxxeye
Legend
4 years ago
@BaknPowder wrote:
The hat doesnt even look that bad if you just combo it with a differnent outfit selection.
This is exactly what I intend to do. The hat is better than all the other ugly headwear that this dude gets.
My ultimate goal is to get for every specialist some headgear that obstructs their stupid faces as much as possible
Stew360
4 years ago
@2Timothy3
There is at least millions of players still playing about 3 days a week for few hours as most peoples do .. the numbers are pretty clear there is still millions total players playing .. Concurent numbers on steam are still good and are stable enough across 24 hours ..

Most player play from 1 to 3 hours sessions and about 3 days out of a 7day week .. So Steamcharts is concurents players wich mean players connected at the exact same time ..

When a game is released all the time zones play at the same time even if its 5am 1 pm etc.. for them so the " concurents players " of a launch game isnt revelant When the game is no longer totally new numbers plummet easily by 75 to 95 % from the launch concurents ... New World amazon MMO had a launch of nearly a million player concurents then is sitting about 60k its still pretty good destiny 2 had millions + players on PC individual active players and was then sitting about 60k to 100k And destiny is a grind intensive game wich draw lots of players to connect more often to do daily etc.. even if they play for few minutes

New world still have millions of active players , Battlefield 2042 still have over 500k to 800k individuals players still playing on steam .. So when you count origin , Epicgame store , Ps5 , Xbox SS SX , Xbone and Ps4 there is for sure 2 millions individuals player still actively playing the game ..

And number will eventually grow if DICE can make any new contents to get peoples attention and if they squash performances issues or at least make it more efficient for many type of hardware on PC at least many disgrunted peoples are like that primarely because they cant run the game without insane stutter , Low FPS etc.. so yeah i can understand their frustration ..

But if you dont have at least a 6 core cpu with 3200mhz + cl16 Ram this game will run like crap , Also enabling DX12 and disabling Weapons DOF help a lots to get rid of the stutter and janky performances at least it did for me and few peoples i know had issues
2Timothy3
Seasoned Hotshot
4 years ago
@Trokey66 I just checked on Xbox and Rush modes seem pretty active. Just seems hit and miss though.
Xer0graV
4 years ago
@Stew360 The loss of 90% of the player base says you are wrong. Any skin other than headgear or backpack means you lose the military issued uniform and break the lore. Skins and heroes (goofy ones at that) have NO place in BF. Selling head gear, faces, hair styles, gloves, backpacks, weapon decals and ornaments could net EA some money without killing BFs legacy. Please, stop making it less of a problem then it is.
Blackidus
4 years ago
@Stew360 Millions still playing you say? So 2042 "sold" about 4,2 million copies, wich includes refunds and 10 hour trials via EA play and Gamepass.
Saying millions are still playing are a bit naive with and 90% dropp on Steam, and I can´t find a game on Xbox series X without crossplay on. And with crossplay on I still have to wait minutes to be dropped into a game.

Heck even the creators of cheats are stoping selling cheats for this game because of teh bad state of the game causing cheats to not work and because the game is dying.
Stew360
4 years ago
@Blackidus There was no 90% drop .. When a game release everyone from different time zones play at the same time even if its 3am 7 am 12pm etc.. wich create concurents launch peak then things settle for BF it was about 35k or so concurent wich mean poeples playing at the same time ..

I wont explain that 100 times am i ?

Regular poeoples play about 3 days a week or so 1 to 3 hours sessions .. So

Even if we would consider Origin , xbox , epic , playstation all suffered the same so call player loss after 2 months the it would still mean over 60 to 70k concurent player 24/7 thats millions of individual players .. you realise most poeoples log for 1 or 2 hours they are not logged in 24 hours a day lol 😆