Re: Is it ever going to be a real BATTLEFIELD game

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@FaTaL_DReaMS1 wrote:

I would money if all they did was remaster BF4. then this game would be dead

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Not without rental servers and community tools.

It was the community that made BF, BF4 was the last game where that was possible.

BF4 remastered would be a waste of money and resources because you can still go play it.

@FaTaL_DReaMS1Not on Playstation. There's at least 10 full servers running, including a couple with DLC maps.  At least in the US anyway.

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@ArchAngeL-PCX wrote:
@sk1lldrental servers and a server browser are a must!

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Isn't that the truth.

Team auto balance is a must. I have had to quit every game but 2 because losing is not fun nor my thing

I feel like it's a great game to play and enjoy. I certainly have a great time in all aspects of the game right now.

Mind you I have T1 on ALOT of the primary weapons, and I think I have 4 vehicles T1. Currently working on getting T1 for MBTs with over 1k with each tank. So I know each corner of gameplay right now.

Saying this game "is not a battlefield" is just wrong. Sure, there have been a lot of changes (Not good ones) like specialists. But I think Dice managed to find a great middle-ground with classes and specialists. Now I'm not saying that it's perfect and the next game should also include a specialist system. All I'm saying is that given the mess we had at launch, Dice did a phenomenal job at getting everything work together in a more or less acceptable manner.

For me this game certainly feels like Battlefield in terms of immersion and engagement. Its way ahead of BF5 in that sense. All BF5 had was a good gunplay and nothing else. Balance was awful, vehicles were awful and not properly balanced. Some classes were OP, others underpowered etc

BF1 had an amazing atmosphere and immersion but lacked skill ceiling and overall gunplay. Looked great, but was way too casual for my taste with boring weapons and insanely overpowered vehicles.

BF2042 found a great balance now between classes, vehicles, and infantry/vehicles. 

- Gunplay feels great

- Vehicles finally feel viable after 3.2 and latest Lis nerf. (Please Dice keep it this way.) 

- Gameplay flow is quite nice. Some maps still need a bit of work, but overall it feels great.

- Audio is very immersive 

- Cosmetics look good. Yes, it's an important point for some, including myself. 

And if want to ignore everything and still blindly hate it. wel....

No it won't be, because it is not designed to be a real battlefield. This game is a clone of EFT, Warzone and Apex Legends. Just trends, without a soul. The core is rotten and Dice won't be able to fix that, because everything is worse than in its predecessor, maybe except for the setting.

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@NazT55 wrote:
@ArchAngeL-PCXI agree. They could do a Bf2/2142 remaster.

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@NazT55 

This is the only right answer, full stop.

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@FaTaL_DReaMS1 wrote:

Team auto balance is a must. I have had to quit every game but 2 because losing is not fun nor my thing

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yea i noticed that the other night.  you talked a bunch of smack in text chat then bailed on the game after you lost your helo.  not hard to have a good W/L record when you quit any game that you can't ride on coat tails to win

Which Battlefield game was it where there were random people (not clans or groups of friends) on servers all playing the classes correctly?  This has never  happened.  

@Skill4Reel The class system was never that, people didn't purposely join games and play 'classes' and did the 'teamwork' but everything was designed around the idea that if you were to embrace the system it could make you a better player and had a certain satisfaction level. It used to be that if you were to attack helo and you were solo vs a attack helo of 2 GG you are most likely losing that.

But they designed so much in 2042 that you can ignore all that and still be nearly as effective it really doesn't matter anymore how you play. I like Zain, I was always a fan of the airburst in 2142 but Zain atm has a auto heal after killing someone, you get 1🏈 med pens, you can have C5 and you have a 'grenade' launcher.... it's just too much same with how many other specialists are designed.

Hell they are even supposedly buffing the health regen after taking damage instead of just adding back the system where you can resupply health/ammo from support classes by pressing a button near them..... elegant system. These things are the 'class' system and 'teamplay' elements that are enough to make it a Battlefield game imo, but it has to be the core of every design decision they make.

Just see it as the 'class' system and 'teamplay' as an subconscious thing about the game not something everyone HAS to consciously be aware of. If designed well it happens organicly.

Atleast in my years of Battlefield is what I feel the Battlefield DNA is about.

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@FaTaL_DReaMS1 wrote:
@PsubondI don’t care if I die in a vehicle it’s I care about winning I can be top of the board but no point if losing so I’d rather quit then be loser

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if you don't care about vehicles why did you spend so much time camping the spawn screen for a wildcat and as soon as someone grabbed it you quit?  i saw you quit out of at least 3 games the other night (i was glad you were gone given how you were spamming text chat), that tells me that your win/loss record has no meaning and you quit if you aren't on a team that drags you across the line and does the work for you.

i'd rather lose than be a habitual quitter.  no honor in quitting and that makes the victories you do get empty and meaningless