Re: It is definitely hard to get rid of a well flown nightbird on the new map.
No body should buy another title from this particular group of devs. Definitely don’t pre-order. Trust must be built back up and earned again.
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- @cormagnus It's pretty clear the Battlefield spirit and formula is not safe in the hands of this dev team.
Another round totally dominated by nightbirds. Round ended 0-864. Enemy NB pilot finished 72-3. Fixed AA is a joke I terms of location and damage. NB easily ducks behind dunes while flares replenish. Changes to flares made zero difference to vulnerability of NB. I'm off to play something else.
Ridiculous that you can't lock onto air vehicles flying under 30m, where is the logic in that?!?!
- @MADMAC50K As if they placed the sanddunes later on to facilitate the one nightbird because someone at DICE decided that it HAD TO HAVE a nightbird on to counter... the tank?! Then they hastily placed 2 fixed AA's to prevent ...basefarming but that are deleted within seconds by the nightbird because for some reason of balance.
This DICE studio is weirder than a bag of seashells thrown under the train. Must say, at first i thought it's full farming map. I was in same opinion with OP. BUT again i must say, its actually way more challenging map for nb than actually any other. Sure, dunes. Pointless since you are actually stuck in there, i live but being useless. What i mean, i like the map.
Here are some simplified reasons:
Relies a lot on flying skills for survivability, you simply have no cover, so you need to hide behind buildings in narrow streets. Since now when you touch something, nb goes full Micheal Bay.
Its the only flying thing in map, which means i am target for darn every projectile.
If you can fly like in OPs video was shown, lobby is weak. I get constant lizz and boy o boy, at best i've reached 5 lockons at the same time. Trust me, in this map i sweat asf. I like it.
A good example of why this map is trash and why the NB is still OP for the 7th Season running....
@MADMAC50K
this is less about the nightbird itself in isolation and more about how there are no LATVs, WildCats or CAVs.
This is like how ecoystems work in the real world. If you remove the species that can keep a predator in check, the predator will ravage the area.The inclusion of LATVs alone with their 20mm Flak would have been really helpful.
I do not understand their thought process with excluding jeeps but providing tanks.
A lot of things about this season are borderline insane decisions
@MADMAC50KLol, no lockons, no tgms, soflams, instantly birds fault. 😅😂
Example, lock on breaks farming.
@MADMAC50K wrote:A good example of why this map is trash and why the NB is still OP for the 7th Season running....
https://x.com/Flex_Lane/status/1775599149968437560?s=20
Wait there’s an AA gun in the base? I’ve never gone back that far, is it functional?
- @ATFGunr Its functional alright if the nightbird gets close it does have a good range BUT the view is terrible because of the crap dice put in front.
If the teams NB is being chased by the enemy NB they will fly towards the AA which gives the AA operator a great chance to taking out the enemy.
Sometimes a smart nightbird will flank you from the side if they fly low and at the map edge if you dont pay attention then take you out. - @Hudson1531 That’s great to know, I’ve never noticed or looked for that lol, I just run forward like the typical idiot 🤣
- @ATFGunr
I think it activates the same way as in BF4 where the automatic turret will not shoot until someone in your team bothers to 3D spot the nightbird. - @UP_HawxxeyeSo it’s automated? That’s been needed over bases since the game started. It looked like a manned one as it was destroyed by the helo. Like the CWIS on Renewal. I should have checked it out tonight lol, I’ll do that tomorrow now.
- @ATFGunr You can man it, but if not it operates automatically. But either way due to it's location and weakness it's completely useless. A good NB pilot will take it out in 1 strafe.
- @RanzigeRidder2
I do not think it can be entered in Haven @ATFGunrNot functional at all. The AA turrets in both bases were located by Stevie Wonder, because only someone who couldn't see would have picked such a stupid place for them. Also they can be easily taken out by a NB pilot, as the video shows. The do very little damage and feel far less effective than the turret on Reclaimed for example.
- @UP_Hawxxeye I can confirm you can enter those! I was confused at first as I thought they were similar to the one on Reclaimed on the roof of C2. But the ones on Haven show always your team color as if they are occupied, rather than the white status of the one on Reclaimed.
However if you walk up to it you can enter it.
Regardless of this, it is still not worth it. - @UP_Hawxxeye Yeah - you can definitely use the turrets in Haven - but no one bothers as they are 100% useless.
@Man_iLoveFishing wrote:@MADMAC50KLol, no lockons, no tgms, soflams, instantly birds fault. 😅😂
Example, lock on breaks farming.It's the very start of the round, and that map doesn't really justify half of the team spawning with an AA loadout just to try to take out one NB. Besides, the NB can easily dodge TGMS, or duck behind the dunes on the left or one of the buildings at the back to replenish flares, then rinse and repeat farming....I've hardly ever seen Lis or anyone firing rockets on that map, because everyone knows it's pointless. And the new SRAW (the one that takes out the NB in the fake trailer?) is even more pointless!
- @MADMAC50K Yeah, it can dodge, it can hide but it cant farm same time by doing all these. Might live, but being useless. In the beginning of round only flying thing coming front of infantry, oh look free kills cause players watch their feet when they run.
@MADMAC50K wrote:
@Man_iLoveFishing wrote:@MADMAC50KLol, no lockons, no tgms, soflams, instantly birds fault. 😅😂
Example, lock on breaks farming.It's the very start of the round, and that map doesn't really justify half of the team spawning with an AA loadout just to try to take out one NB. Besides, the NB can easily dodge TGMS, or duck behind the dunes on the left or one of the buildings at the back to replenish flares, then rinse and repeat farming....I've hardly ever seen Lis or anyone firing rockets on that map, because everyone knows it's pointless. And the new SRAW (the one that takes out the NB in the fake trailer?) is even more pointless!
I agree that it is pointless to run AA loadout on this map just for 1 NB. I would only do this when playing with my friends so we can coordinated address the threat. But playing with randoms you put yourself at a disadvantage by focussing on the NB.
I've ran Lis on this map but mainly to use her TGM against rooftop campers. I managed to down a NB with it once on this map, but this was mainly because I caught it off guard fighting with our own NB.- @RanzigeRidder2 1 soflam is enough.
@Man_iLoveFishing wrote:
@RanzigeRidder21 soflam is enough.Not when playing with randoms it ain't....
- @MADMAC50K I understand, but funny story. By just painting stresses pilot, me. By just getting locked, i forget how quickly recoilless goes, especially when launched close. So, by farming, i really do need to keep eye on lockon icons, which distracts asf. Once i get locked while killing and hear first beeps of rocked launched, too late for me. Again depends of distance.
@Man_iLoveFishing Lock-ons seem to have no affect on pro pilots - they just wait for the "missile incoming" warning before popping flares. Then they know they have 12 seconds to get away and replenish before continuing the farm. Good engineers don't bother wasting their very limited ammo on pilots that haven't already popped flares, as they know it's just wasting ammo. So pilots have a win win situation....
