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Re: Paik needs to be spotted on the minimap while walling


@kregora wrote:
@Echo6EchoAre you sure thats the reason, and not that people now play Paik to get their T1 unlocked? Now that she became viable again?

You refer to smoke usage, and I do use a lot of smoke, just because its BF2042 and smoke is the only way to get some concealment. It worked fine in BFV to revive people, and that works fine in BF2042, too.

I'm 100% positive that most of the time I get hacked by a Paik and killed it's already T1. It only takes a few rounds of BT to get T1 anyway. It's by far the easiest to get T1 in for me so far.  You have it T1? Are you still using it?

I get your smoke comment and sure it's used, but not as much as it is now that Paik hacks...

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  • Echo6Echo's avatar
    Echo6Echo
    4 years ago

    @emerson1975 wrote:
    @Echo6EchoEh so you have paik t1 so have actually used her more than me looool come on dude stop this!

    How could I possibly know how strong something is or isn't if I've never used it? Used it long enough to T1 it which was about 2 hrs....stop what? Your argument makes no sense at all. Using something that you believe is OP means you can't say it's OP? Are you saying you've never used it? If that's the case, you have NO leg to stand on.

  • @Echo6Echo You can’t complain about a character you have actually maxed out lol!
    It seems you was more than happy using this so called overpowered character.
  • UP_Hawxxeye's avatar
    UP_Hawxxeye
    Legend
    4 years ago
    @Echo6Echo
    Paik is now OP I agree
    But making her wallhack a double edged sword was not cool. Until recently I was avoiding to use her cause I found no reason to get so close to spot enemies only to spot myself too, might as well use another specialist with grenades or better perks.
    It would be better if it was something other entirely, like limited range IRNV goggles, Splinter cell style
  • Echo6Echo's avatar
    Echo6Echo
    4 years ago

    @emerson1975 wrote:
    @Echo6EchoYou can’t complain about a character you have actually maxed out lol!
    It seems you was more than happy using this so called overpowered character.

    Really? It takes zero effort to max her out. And I played her long enough to do that and not a moment longer, which was about 2 hours of my hundreds of hours of play time. Are you even reading my posts or just railing at me in a vain attempt to discredit me?  And I'm going to disagree that you aren't allowed to use something you think it OP. How do you know if it is or isn't if you don't try it. It's like saying you don't like carrots and you've never eaten them. You still haven't said whether or not you've used her at all. Double edge sword right? If you haven't, you have no basis for argument. If you have and still use it past T1, then you know it's OP. I won't continue the debate with you as I feel we've reach an impasse of me stating what I feel to be facts and you trying your hardest to break me down for using her and put words in my mouth without a reasonable argument. 

    @UP_Hawxxeye I agree that maybe being spotted is too much. Not suggesting that at all. I'm stating emphatically that it's OP in it's current state 🙂

  • TTZ_Dipsy's avatar
    TTZ_Dipsy
    Hero+
    4 years ago

    For the longest time I never even knew she showed up on the map when using the ability and as soon as I did they take it away haha - That message is permanently etched on my screen now :/

  • @Echo6Echo Your being ridiculous lol your basically saying now your t1 it needs nerfing!
    I have used the character and never once thought It was overpowered at all especially when compared to other characters.
    This community needs to stop this nerfing stuff because it’s getting beyond ridiculous.
  • Echo6Echo's avatar
    Echo6Echo
    4 years ago

    @emerson1975 wrote:
    @Echo6EchoYour being ridiculous lol your basically saying now your t1 it needs nerfing!
    I have used the character and never once thought It was overpowered at all especially when compared to other characters.
    This community needs to stop this nerfing stuff because it’s getting beyond ridiculous.

    Again with the words in my mouth....I don't want it nerfed because I'm done with T1. Are you reading anything I write or is comprehension the problem? I'm saying I T1'd it in like TWO HOURS and haven't touched it since, any my opinion is that as it sits it's OP. I also NEVER said to nerf it....I've said it's OP to have zero consequence. Is that really that hard to understand? I'm done talking to you at this point. We can't have a debate with you hurling insults and trying to discredit me because I've used a certain character and think it's OP. Again, you don't know if you like the sauce if you've never tasted the sauce. 

    I'd love to hear how you would compare her power to other characters is some meaningful way since you seem to think she's ultra balanced with the likes or Boris or Dozier...

  • @Echo6Echo Her power is only overpowered compared to boris because boris got nerfed into oblivion and was made a complete non entity because people couldn’t look past the end of their nose whilst playing!
  • Echo6Echo's avatar
    Echo6Echo
    4 years ago

    @emerson1975 wrote:
    @Echo6EchoHer power is only overpowered compared to boris because boris got nerfed into oblivion and was made a complete non entity because people couldn’t look past the end of their nose whilst playing!

    go on....

  • Echo6Echo's avatar
    Echo6Echo
    4 years ago

    @emerson1975 wrote:
    @Echo6EchoLol you could go on forever and ever dude lol compare her to sundance and mackay and she’s weak sauce

    ok I'm going to counter your Boris comment...Boris' gun I think is not meant to be a "leave it in place and it'll kill everyone it sees". Actually I think it's pretty balanced other than the amount of dmg it takes to get T1. They nerf it and then don't change the requirements, imagine that....Anywhoo, Boris' gun, spots, gives you the location on the map and "help" with distraction and damage. It's limited by LOS, can't see through walls. So, I think what its' meant for, a companion to your game play rather than a way to get free kills is nicely balanced. 

    As to Sundance and Mackay...how does she NOT compare to them? What about their ability makes them OP over her?

  • Psubond's avatar
    Psubond
    Legend
    4 years ago

    meh, i finished T1 on paik...idc what they do to her now i'll probably never pick her again.  doesn't fit my playstyle (i hunt vehicles)

  • kregora's avatar
    kregora
    Seasoned Ace
    4 years ago
    @Echo6Echo But if I guess correctly you completed T1 before she got nerfed, and as 128-player Breakthrough on Kaleidoscope was still a thing.

    I remember I stopped using her after the initial nerf, where Paiks started to glow red in a smoked room, when they activated the scanner, and not only the minimap.

    I wonder who develops a tool that makes you appear on the enemy threat radar when activated, that shows you targets up to 20m away, but you are marked on the radar of a helicoper half a kilometer away. I'd rather not use it then, and send MacKay and listen footsteps, shout outs and gunshots to locate enemies.



  • @kregora I actually didn't pay any attention until the buff and everyone started quacking about it. And then yes, took a few rounds on BT on Kaleidoscope. I never played Paik when that was in place, but yeah it seems a bit odd that you'd be spotted that far away.

  • Specialists and abilities just need to go and not be in any future BF games. It was a horrible implementation and should have went back to no name soldiers and classes, when they decided to give this COD Warzone wannabe the Battlefield name. 

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