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Honestly, the map is fun. But any kind of vehicle gameplay is dead. spent multiple rounds spamming the air attack vehicle, never got one. 1300 tickets and not once had a chance to fly. I don't like playing infantry, I like tanks and helos, now maybe 1-3 times a session I get one. Tank spends the entire round getting shot at by C4 / AT TV / AT rocket / C4 drones. While the one single map in a year is nice, this patch is a huge let down. Boring af running simulator again, and TTK from almost all the guns is golden gun levels of stupid. But there's literal tons of bullsh!t skins and weapon skins, and useless titles and background images. Terrible
- 4 years ago
I don't understand having only 1 attack aircraft per team but give us 2 new choppers? Seriously you need to adjust that to match the map size and players. Decrease the transport aircraft.
- AerialDominance4 years agoRising Adventurer
As the title says do jets even exist??
I love that they are at least partially fixing the game thats why i returned but as an air vehicle player that aspect of the game has degraded to tuely a new low.
Not only were jets already useless since the games launch but they managed to make them disappear completely by adding new overpowered helis turning the little bird into an "ATTACK" vehciles and on top of all that reducing the number of "Attack" vehicles to 1! on all maps its insane. Since I came back i haven't seen a single Jet in the sky and i played it myself and got flamed for wasting a vehicle slot and truely I don't even disagree it is a waste jets are essentially dead content and every air vehicle player has just been given the middle finger from dice we now have to compete with 64 players for a SINGLE helicoper or jet. Just how disconnected is dice with the community? completely. - UP_Hawxxeye4 years agoLegend@AerialDominance I do not get how was 1 "attack" slot found to be sufficient for teams of 32 and 64 players.
Even in BFV in large maps like Wake, one team could end up having like 6 aircraft based on which objectives they controlled. - 4 years ago@AerialDominance so you say transport can live now longer than half a minute?
- UP_Hawxxeye4 years agoLegend
@LlamaWithKatanaThat depends on who is the pilot.
I could easily last several minutes with the transport as long as the other team was not really hellbent on taking me down. - 4 years ago@UP_Hawxxeye sure. With jets active it is impossible to outrun them and extremely hard to outmanoeuvre them. They can go almost as slow as you and faster than your top speed + from angle where guns can't reach em. So for jet any transport is just easy prey.
- DarthFDG4 years agoHero+
It was changed because people were complaining about too many attack aircraft.
This is an example of how any change is going to be good for some people and bad for others. So, it's now a question as to whether more people think it's a bad change or more people think it's a good change.
- 4 years ago
Best change they could do is at least allow for more attack aircraft on the largest maps and split the jets from the helicopters. The whole thing about having all main battle tanks or all attack helicopters or jets on a single map seriously needs to be reworked back to the old ways of having a select number of each vehicle to use.
Something like having just 1 attack heli and/or 1 Condor/Hind with no jets on Kaleidoscope just sounds better. Doesn't make sense having so many air vehicles on that map. Get to something like Hourglass though and you would get a big mix of everything from tanks to aircraft. 2-3 vehicles per attack category for that one, plus the transports of course. Just makes more sense and would be a much more enjoyable experience in my opinion.
Guess we'll see what the community thinks the more they play 2042 in the coming months if the current setup works. - 4 years ago
More air slots is what would prevent the Hind and the Condor from being as powerful as they are in the current state of the game. They were never an issue when we had multiple slots for aircraft.
- UP_Hawxxeye4 years agoLegend
@protoman23 wrote:More air slots is what would prevent the Hind and the Condor from being as powerful as they are in the current state of the game. They were never an issue when we had multiple slots for aircraft.
The hind and condor were kinda fixed by the power of the TGS missiles though.
In the past the problem with the flying transports were that their slots were becoming nightbirds so people had little access to the transports.
Somehow I am suspecting that DICE wanted to reduce the Hind/condor spam in 1.0 but they mistakenly reduced the attack aircraft slot instead. Because someone who gives orders but does not play mistook the hind and the condor for attack aircraft due to their kill prowess and nobody dared to correct them.
- 4 years ago@UP_Hawxxeye That theory sounds 100% possible in the current state of dice :DDDDD
- UP_Hawxxeye4 years agoLegend
So I did some flashback conquest and Caspian border with 64 people has 3 attack aircraft slots per team?
Why does that work for Caspian but not for doubly larger 2042 maps?
- 4 years ago
@UP_Hawxxeye wrote:So I did some flashback conquest and Caspian border with 64 people has 3 attack aircraft slots per team?
Why does that work for Caspian but not for doubly larger 2042 maps?
it doesn't work for AoW because infantry only bushido code crybabies complain when everything kills them and refuse to use the tools that game provides to counter whatever is farming them. I believe this game would truly be better if portal was the singular experience and people just were given the tools to make lobbies and play the way they want.
- AerialDominance4 years agoRising Adventurer
@LlamaWithKatana Transport + 50mm is me and my friends speciality and quite frankly in the current state the transport is insanely overpowered. Even before all the patches me and my friend survived all game in the sky with often times 20-40 vehicle kills. After patch we get less vehicle kills and simply farm infantry racking up 1st and 2nd place every single game. Transports never needed a buff or less vehicles in the sky
- 4 years ago
@AerialDominance wrote:@LlamaWithKatana Transports never needed a buff or less vehicles in the sky
Did they actually buff transports? I thought they were the same they've always been (just more common now that it's not competing with the LittleBird spawns)
- 4 years ago
Fix for all of this (64 players only, because 128 sucks anyways):
- 1 Jet each team
- 1 Attack Chopper (Stealth, Scout, Casual) each team
- 1 Transport Chopper eacht team (remove the main-guns and make the miniguns less powerfull)
All problems solved.
- 4 years ago@TickTack121 That’s less then past battlefields that are smaller they need more then that
- 4 years ago
@chefedt wrote:
@TickTack121That’s less then past battlefields that are smaller they need more then thatIt is not less than in past battlefields and no, we don't need more kill-farming-vehicles with the same amount of players (64 players)
- 4 years ago
If we had better counters to Air Vehicles it wouldn't be as bad. Buff the AA on the Wildcat, place some stationary AA around the Map and I'm fine with more Vehicles.
Tanks need a Buff in survivability, they are easy Prey.
- 4 years ago
They should lower the T1 now when its so hard to get a heli or jet
- 4 years ago@TickTack121 Its definitly less. Except few maps maybe. There were maps in Bf4 with 2 little birds, 2 jets, 1 attack jet and anti air... and it worked, since you would be more busy with fighting vehicles than going for infantry. The farm maps were always these with less vehicles.
- 4 years ago@theBus2142 There is enough anti air stuff in the game just get learn how to use them smart.
- 3 years ago
All this is because the BF2042 interface designer came from the BF1, BF5 series and it was difficult for him to rethink that he was making a remaster of BF4, BF3. This is an old series that everyone loved so much. So he decided to fasten the BF2042 equipment distribution system as in BF1, BF5. They cannot return it due to the complexity of the revision. So they do crutches with each update, throwing equipment over the slots. All this for the sake of novelty, supposedly to call equipment on the battlefield. Cool how everyone trudges from this, sarcasm.
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