Re: Update 5.0 Patch notes
@UP_LordPlumber The increased spread is only starting off affecting ARs, it'll eventually make its way to all weapons.
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I dont get why they touched the spread.
- @GrizzGolf Because the game is screwed on 128 player maps for console players. One shot kills by PC players. Needs to be fixed or if crossplay is causing it, then just disable it between PC/Console.
@JOGAGATYA wrote:
@GrizzGolfBecause the game is screwed on 128 player maps for console players. One shot kills by PC players. Needs to be fixed or if crossplay is causing it, then just disable it between PC/Console.As a PC player I often got oneshotkilled out of nowhere by consoleplayers. Since I turned crossplay off it's better. I didn't know that for console players there is the same problem just the other way round.
Maybe PC and consoles don't go well together.
Fingers crossed for no more classes and the return of C5 to all.
@UP_LordPlumberI still think that the guns are too easy to use compared to older titles and that lowering effective distances are a good thing. It will make mid-range fighting a little less deadly.
It shouldn't be hard to nerf all automatic fire, why the spread increase is not implemented for all weapons, is just typical Dice stupidity/incompetence. We will probably get a period of increased LMG/SMG usage.
And you are right, noob players will still be owned by better players, that will not change a bit (but nothing will actually change that).
@SharpGoblin wrote:As a PC player I often got oneshotkilled out of nowhere by consoleplayers. Since I turned crossplay off it's better. I didn't know that for console players there is the same problem just the other way round.
Maybe PC and consoles don't go well together.
There's a lot of latency between PC and consoles (both directions) and the visual feedback does not match what is supposed to be happening according to the server (e.g. smoke takes up to 4 seconds to appear when a vehicle triggers it).
All the more reason for console only crossplay. Leave them out of PC games.
- @cso7777 The problem is that 2042 is literally bigger than every previous Battlefield. 50m and further is a typical engagement distance in this game and nothing can change that. Nerfing weapons will make things worse for everyone. We will end up dumping huge amounts of ammo down range when inevitably engaging enemies from far away.
It will create situations like in BF5 TTK nerf where I looked at the enemy players and we both refused to fire knowing that it achieves nothing.
Sure guns are easy to use. So what? Increase the recoil, and increase the skill ceiling to allow skilled players to achieve something.
Tapfiring in this game is a steaming pile of garbage, nothing can change that unless they rework the gunplay. Game forces you to magdump at any range because the controls are still crap. So SMGs will be king after tomorrow correct? AR are going to suffer with this spread thing
@GrizzGolf wrote:
So SMGs will be king after tomorrow correct? AR are going to suffer with this spread thing
Time to slap the Overpowered skin onto the K30 and go to town.
@UP_LordPlumberI agree that increased spread is perhaps the not the best solution to the easy gun-play and personally I would like more recoil instead of spread.
But its better that Dice does something, even though the "road can be bumpy", they still ended up with reasonable TTK in BFV (and BF1).
The worst thing is that the TTD-problem from BFV, is a big part of the awful gunplay. Having TTK/TTD being more consistent, would perhaps make the problem "go away" and then some adjustments to specific guns would be enough (RM68, G57 etc).Skilled players have plenty of advantages already so increased spread is a good solution to lowering the range of weapons.
DICE needs to be careful not to widen the gap between the top player and the average guy too much.
We already have problems attracting new players.
- @ElliotLH I'm already rocking that PP-29 skin with P2W sight. It will be like the launch all over again with PP-29 dominating everything.
- @UP_LordPlumber Yeah I think you're right that the chances are high that it'll be a return to PP dominance.
@cso7777In BF2042, everything is closer to the Hardcore mode in BF4. Personaly, i love Hardcore. And for those who need it must be a normal mode option. But the problem is that they don't have the ability to choose options for matchmaking. Therefore, they are forced to invent crutches for an initially crooked and inflexible system. It turns out also crooked. And that's sad.
@ElliotLH Love that skin with this sight. My purchase was worth it 👍
@UP_LordPlumber wrote:
@ElliotLH Love that skin with this sight. My purchase was worth it 👍
That does look really clear. Which skin is it, @UP_LordPlumber?
@ElliotLH wrote:
@GrizzGolf wrote:So SMGs will be king after tomorrow correct? AR are going to suffer with this spread thing
Time to slap the Overpowered skin onto the K30 and go to town.
Ill see you out on the battlefield with mine
5.0 is a really bad set of choices for weapons and vehicles.
The only GOOD thing coming out of this is Wildcat is now in its OWN CLASS, but that is only a PARTIAL good. We need a DEDICATED AA Platform, wildcat has to many illogical people trying to play Anti-Air with 40 and 50mm Guns and AA Missiles ( pointless!! ) rather than twin guns ( True AA Guns ) and using AT Missiles to defend from ground attacks or designated targets to lock onto in the air.
removing all the 30/40/HE Grenades from LATV and Bolte is dumb, making the glass on Bolte impervious is dumb.
At this point, i truly think DICE Is trying to run 2042 into the ground and kill it.
Don't even get me started on the bullet dispersion!!!
@ElliotLH wrote:
@GrizzGolfSweet - don't forget to t-bag me 😆
@UP_LordPlumberThank you!OMG 😃
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