Re: Why is there no Console Only Cross-Play?

Dice, there's no servers to play on in AU for PS5 with crossplay off. Constantly stuck in waiting for players screen to join before being kicked back to the main menu after a few minutes regardless of the game mode - this is beyond a joke for a online only multiplayer game

And before anyone suggests to just "turn on crossplay", that shouldn't be the answer. PC has a distinct advantage with accuracy and response times with keyboard, mouse so it's not a level playing field.

Remember Dice; you said:

from: https://answers.ea.com/t5/Battlefield-Announcements/Battlefield-Briefing-Welcome-to-2042/m-p/10415599/highlight/true#M1

"As a multiplayer-only experience, it's important for us to let you play Battlefield 2042 when and how you want," 

"AI soldiers are used for server-filling capabilities, ensuring your matches remain full, no matter your location."

so where are our servers?

I need help. I am on PS5, Brazil. I can never play with the crossplay off.

I'm desperate. I haven't played since 11/12

Thanks

https://youtu.be/fNUtdbuRMSE

I am from Brazil too and I am having the same problem. I cannot find any game if I turn off the crossplay. If enable 90% of the players are PC. 

I am playing on Xbox Series X. 

as White_NoaiM said, there are many console players that WOULD like the opportunity to play cross platform with our PC friends using our M&KB. I agree there is an advantage against controllers in many situations that is why I only want to use M&KB against those folks that opt for the same input 

@White_NoaiM I completely understand your opinion, but there are a lot of console players who do not want to play with PC. All i want to say is that crossplay shouldn’t be forced. 

@MTFULemming Completely agree with you on this point.

I haven’t had any issues finding full lobbies of PS5 only. 🤷‍♂️

Location: Texas, USA

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@V1kingH4mster wrote:
all console players do is complain about REDACTED, having played about 10 hours so far I've noticed zero my self and as I play on the REDACTED fest that is pc surely that would be quite impossible according to too the console player base?.

add to that do you really think legitimate pc players want to play against REDACTED? imagine you have to every game you play think did that player kill me legitimately, was that dodgy, was he watching me through walls? it's not fun I can tell you..

It's also not fun not being able to play games you like because people do REDACTED so for us legitimate players crossplay is a godsend. and helps keep games alive on pc.

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I guess you're not allowed to discuss the C word here, since this post has been removed twice now, so I'll try to avoid mentioning it 🙂

You basically just said console players should be punished so that your experience is better on PC. That's ridiculous. There's literally no upside to crossplay on console right now, aside from actually being able to find a match, since it's basically forced on Xbox and turning it off the way you have to on Xbox means you're not able to find any populated lobbies.

You made a choice to play on a platform that is notoriously easy to do -that- on, console players chose to play on something much more restricted. Using crossplay as a band-aid for a PC specific issue at the expense of console isn't a solution. Maybe they should fix the root cause of the problem first, then implement INPUT BASED PC-Console crossplay.

Maybe if more people were able to purchase PS5 and XBSX consoles for the price that they actually cost then there would be players for these platforms on non-crossplay servers.  I see XBOX and PS players in almost every squad that I join.  Maybe many people with these platforms don't have a problem with crossplay.  I personally think that crossplay is one of the best things about multiplayer gaming right now. 

@Skill4Reel  Cool. But it should always be optional for consoles to play with PC, for obvious reasons.

The thing is, right now at least, for Xbox it's basically forced. You either play with crossplay on or look at the "waiting for players to join" screen until you get bored and do something else.

Xbox gets no notification that disabling crossplay is even possible, unlike PC and PS5 do when they first launch the game. Xbox can't disable crossplay in-game like PC and PS5 can either, and, assuming you happen to come across the greyed-out toggle option in the game menu, the game menu just tells you to go disable it somewhere in the convoluted system menu. It doesn't tell you where or how to go about doing it.

I'm willing to bet that the majority of Xbox players you're running into in crossplay matches aren't even aware that disabling crossplay is possible. They've been automatically opted into it without notice and haven't been told how to opt out or even that they CAN opt out.

I think you can see how this is more likely to be the thing causing the issues with low player count in non-crossplay matchmaking than lack of availability of the consoles. Yeah, they've been hard to get, but they've both sold millions of units in the US alone.

I personally think there should be two lobbies. One is a crossplay lobby and another is a console-only crossplay lobby. This reduces the number of lobbies from 4 down to 2. 

Crossplay lobby will have PC + PS5 + Series S/X. M&K support for consoles is restricted to this lobby.

Console only crossplay lobby will only have PS5 and series S/X. M&K shouldn't be allowed in this lobby. 

I do not think a PC only lobby is needed as I have barely seen anyone from pc turn it off and there is no software you can use on a console that can rival PC cheats. So there's no reason for PC players to have this option. Even if they don't want to play vs a controller and the aim assist that comes with it, there will still be PC aim assist controller users so it doesn't change much for them. And similarly M&K for consoles doesn't change much in a full crossplay lobby because there will be M&K players regardless. 

It may look like a weird iteration of input based matchmaking which it probably is but with a few tweaks to keep console lobbies clean. Just my opinion