4 years ago

Repetition of the Same Mistakes

Watching the Hazard Zone reveal was an interesting experience, and highlighted several things for me. The first being that DICE is trying something somewhat new with a BR-like mode, which is cool, but is also showed that they didn't learn from Firestorm and why it failed severely.

In case it needs to be described as to why, Firestorm failed because it was gated behind a pay wall. Whether or not it turned out to be a fun mode, and whether or not Hazard Zone will prove to be a fun experience, it will suffer a similar fate that Firestorm had simply because it gives no real introduction to an average player who might be thinking "Hey, I think I'll try this mode and see how I feel about the rest of the game".

This is why Warzone was largely successful. CoD did what CoD does best with it's multiplayer and Campaign experience, and additionally included Warzone to get more players on board.

DICE, I don't work there. I know I don't see all that happens behind closed doors. But why is it so difficult to learn from previous mistakes? Why is it so difficult to maintain the distinguishing features your franchise is known for in your base game? I would think EA would want this game to be successful, perhaps they had forgotten why that was the case years ago. Portals could be the only reason I really buy this game, and by now, I'm more interested to refund my purchase and move on to other team base shooter like SQUAD, Insurgency, and even to continue playing older titles like BF4 and BF1.

What a shame, to those that have been around for this long and witnessed the Company and Developer's strides and failures. I see now where the priorities lie, and as I'm sure it is with most others, it's just business to you all now.

If anyone feels like I'm way off, just say so. I'd love to enjoy this game for what it offers, but it feels to me like the biggest departure from why I loved the franchise from the beginning.

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53 Replies

BGHFlakjacket
4 years ago
My experience in the very limited Beta was playing as an antitank warrior and spending 90% of my time looking for ammo. Nobody carried it and I could never find it marked on the map.
TONYBOY56--_
4 years ago
Would've been nice to have a some kind of class or notification system to assist you in that. I know I had my moments where I thought the same thing.
Threedog1421
4 years ago
@BGHFlakjacketYup was the same with revives and medkits. I think people hate the gadget system. I tried medic and I said F this when I realized the stupid paddles have to charge up. You didn't even need med kits as the health regen was so fast.
Trokey66
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
Behind a pay wall? You mean included in the price of the game?
As I said in another thread, why must everything be free? We now get all DLC free because people whinged and now you want more free!
Alas, everything around BFV was far from a stellar success for numerous reasons so a free Firestorm would have made little difference.
For what it is worth, I enjoyed the occasional foray into Firestorm......
TickTack121
4 years ago
Trailer didn't show anything, so i looked for the official info post here in the forums. Not really interested in that mode. They should make it F2P and give us a class-based battlefield for purchase instead.
lookcr
Rising Ace
4 years ago
@Trokey66 Not everything, is clear for us i think, the problem here is the player base, I ve said in other thread this too looking all modes we have now it's almost certain that a good part will remain on the Portal if they dont fix the wf "problems" for exemple is like the undertaring modes of cod, all players stucks in TDM, for BF in special 2042 the players are opinions divided about WF, the core of Battlefield is conquest maybe all of us test this HZ and this mode will die in some weeks like firestorm has died, if we have more players having fun the lifetime of mode grow, and a f2p for this mode joins perfectly i really not understand why this decision as made, but let see
TONYBOY56--_
4 years ago
@Trokey66 I mean to say that if the goal is to attract more players, the best way to do that is create one mode (HZ in this case) as free to play. Gives a taste like WZ did for new players who may be interested in the franchise
lookcr
Rising Ace
4 years ago
@TONYBOY56--_ I agree too. In addition to hackers a potencial problem of f2p, is the best way to engage new players in Bf and life HZ off "pay wall", we have much potencial here looks very fun to play
kregora
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@Trokey66 wrote:
Behind a pay wall? You mean included in the price of the game?
@TONYBOY56--_ He compares Hazardzone to CoD Warzone, and I believe he is right, Warzone wouldn't be as popular, if people had to buy the Full CoD Game.
TONYBOY56--_
4 years ago
@kregora And don't get me wrong, I realize they are going to be very different games with different player counts and play styles. My argument is just that if it's in the interest of EA to maximize their game's popularity, they're making the same mistakes as they had with Firestorm to do so. Marketing only does so much, most times.