DICE TeamHi all,
We're reviewing if the T1 requirements for Boris need adjusting. We'll continue monitoring your feedback on the changes to the SG-36 Sentry Gun that went live in Update 0.4.1.
@LlamaWithKatana wrote:
@Straatford87if you wanted to make it less lethal - fine, you did. But then give it more health and maybe decrease cool down so it is not lethal but at least an annoyance and I can put it more often and be more mobile with it.
no ty. was getting tired of trying to take objectives and having to deal with 4 or 5 turrets. he was broken and he is almost fixed now
@PsubondIt’s called working with a team…odd concept now lost within the battlefield community.
So you think it should be easy to solo 4 or 5 turrets 😂😂😂 why bother having them in the game then?
A ten year old killzone 2 that was littered with flying turrets and stationary ones took teamwork to deal with and nobody cried about it!
@LlamaWithKatana wrote:
@Psubondif there are 4 turrets then there are 4 or more players. So you won't be soloing it anyway. It takes team effort to set it up so it should take team effort to overcome it.
i didn't say i was rolling up on an objective solo. kinda sucks when you have 3 or 4 people going to an objective and they have a bunch of turrets that HIGHLIGHT everyone when they are hunting the borris campers and trying to take the objective. the nerf bat needed to happen on that turret. it was a wall hack crutch that people used so they could hide in a corner and have the turret paint their target red for them instead of having to look for the enemy.
@emerson1975 wrote:
@PsubondOk let’s put it this way ….if your squad can’t take out 3 or 4 turrets your doing it wrong…. You do realise you have another 63 players that can shoot too!
Let's not forget that Rao can hack them which would also 'spot' the nearby 'camping' Boris.
/shrug idk. say what you want. some think it was a clever tactical tool, others like myself think it was a crutch and was abused. it is what it is. either way they have smacked it with the nerf bat (which IN MY OPINION was the right move)
@PsubondIt was a crutch.
But a plain nerf is lazy and bad.
Gadgets with a large degree of automation are in an almost binary state of either too strong or useless.
If the problem is the automation, one overhauls something into being more manual.
As it stands right now there is barely better than disabling the gadget like the Dozer's shield
I never understood this 'crutch' argument around gadgets at all.
Surely and gadget/perk/trait call them what you will, beyond your primary weapon that let's you do something other than shoot people with said primary is a 'crutch' in some way.
In what way was the turret a 'crutch'? Even pre nerf it pretty much only killed the pre damaged or stupid.
"But it was a wallhack!"
Compared to Caspers drone, Piak and to a lesser degree, Rao coupled with pokeballs, its spotting abilities were negligible.
It seems to me that a 'crutch' is something that kills a person who doesn't like being killed by said 'gadget' so cries 'crutch'!
I suppose it's why we don't have nice things like Claymores or Mortars anymore..... 😪
@emerson1975 wrote:
@PsubondOk then let’s stop people abusing flying by sundance or maybe palik spotting!
I would bet my house you play as sundance “the most overpowered character in the game by miles”
nope. i played sundance once so i could do the achievement for flying from the building to the launch pad and then tried her a couple times after that for one life each time then moved on. not a fan of sundance. i have maybe 10 min on paik. tried it, didn't like it. i usually play angel, rao, irish or casper with the rare occasion i pick mckay so i can get to someone who is being annoying and hiding on a structure
@emerson1975 wrote:
@PsubondYea lol the specialist was doing his job lol shock horror!
Maybe you should give it a whirl.
tried him, didn't like him. did T1 on him during zombies cause i knew that's they only way i would be able to stomach playing that specialist long enough to get T1. will never select him again unless i need to cheese a "repair" weekly challenge
@Trokey66
The Sundance variety of EMP grenades might do something for just a few of them. But in a closed space it is rather hard to get enough of them ( I mean they will not be stacked on exactly the same spot and you have to both locate them and disable them while also being targeted by other turrets and their masters). It would take even more teamwork to organize and multiple EMP raid than the other side did to put several turrets.
I am not sure about the regular EMP grenades because for a long time those would blow up in my face right after throwing.
As an option add enemies spotted or assisted with the turret. Fine if you dice wants the turret be a nerf gun. I can live with that. I'm more bummed about T1 still be dependent on that nerf gun. With it they prolonged mastery. I don't say I want it to be doable in few rounds but right now I don't even feel I'm having any progress at all.
@LlamaWithKatanayeah, Rao is by far the easiest specialist to T1 of all of them.
On the far opposite of that is Irish whose mastery depends exclusively on the enemy using rockets and grenades within the radius of his secondary gadget which is also inconsistent and will not always stop a rocket before the rocket makes impact.
@LlamaWithKatana wrote:
@AnobixRao is easy with pockeballs and soflam. Exactly the opposite example. For some numbers should be adjusted if it is impossible to change the requirements to make it even over different specialists.
Sorry if I wasn't clear, I didn't mean for adjusting his (I agree, getting spots period is incredibly easy), my point was that I was surprised that the mastery levels didn't have anything (really) to do with the hacking ability.
