Although the news stories don’t say of it was intentional, I’m pleased to hear today that a recent PlayStation update prevents peripherals such as Cronus from working. Other games have taken steps to prevent its use, something Dice has yet to do. I’m hoping it was intentional on the part of Sony, and that XBox is soon to follow. It’s against the Microsoft EULA to use the devices, however if someone is going to cheat I doubt the EULA stops them doing it. So cheers to Sony and a sincere belief that any kind of cheating needs to be eliminated. It’s too bad they don’t make a device that only allows M&K to be used on consoles, but does not include the other options.

@ATFGunrI'm pretty sure Microsoft stated they were doing this also!New Xbox Policy To Block Unauthorised Accessories | Pure Xbox"Microsoft and other licensed Xbox hardware partners' accessories are designed and manufactured with quality standards for performance, security, and safety. Unauthorized accessories can compromise the gaming experience on Xbox consoles (Xbox One, Xbox Series X/S.) Players may receive a pop-up warning that their accessory is unauthorized. Eventually, the unauthorized accessory will be blocked from use to preserve the console gaming experience. For a full list of accessories that are supported on Xbox consoles, please visit www.xbox.com/accessories, our support pages here and here, and our Designed for Xbox Partner Hardware Program page here."

Microsoft and Sony needs to block TVs and gaming monitors with built-in AI cheats too.

I don’t believe that the main reason devices like these are so popular is because so many people want to play MnK on console.It’s a bit like in the past when people said they bought Playboy magazine just for reading the articles. 😏I welcome the ban of these! One of the main reasons for me to go from PC to console at the time was the leveled playing field. A closed ecosystem giving hackers no chance, and everybody using mostly the same hardware. Unfortunately this has changed with the arrival of 3rd party and elite controllers, and it has gotten out of hand with cheating devices like Cronus. So if we can revert that a bit temporarily, hoorah!As said before I’ve got no illusion that we got rid of it completely. The company selling these things will work to get their product working again.

I made a similar thread on this topic Yesterday but that was closed as it was deemed baiting. I was just happy to see finally something being done against unfair play, intentionally or not.What struck me most was I was playing Yesterday as normal on PS5 servers with crossplay off. To me it seemed there were a lot less players than normal. Typically I have no trouble finding a full server on Redacted Conquest but Yesterday I played several matches with lobbies almost half full of AI Bots. At the moment I did not know about this issue. I have had the PS update myself on 24th Jan, but I only learned Yesterday evening about the impact of this update to 3rd party input devices. Coincidence or not, I could not see the empty servers earlier that day being disconnected from this.Despite I'm happy now, I fear that the companies behind these devices won't sit still and accept their products and business becoming obsolete. I think it'll be only a matter of time for them to find another way in. Just as gaming became big business so did the cheating industry unfortunately.

@RanzigeRidder2 The Playboy reference is terrific 🤣. Realistically Dice should add legit M&K to 2042 for those console players that want to play that way.@JOGAGATYA, your wording made it seem like I was glad that consoles were being restricted and PC was not, which is not my intent at all. I appreciate that may not have been what you meant, I want to stress that cheating of any kind, by any system, is not acceptable. We are all gamers who just want to play and none of us deserve to get railed by cheaters whether on PC or console.

Sony update to PS5 broke peripherals

26 Replies

sk1lld
Legend
2 years ago
@ATFGunr

I'm pretty sure Microsoft stated they were doing this also!
New Xbox Policy To Block Unauthorised Accessories | Pure Xbox
"Microsoft and other licensed Xbox hardware partners' accessories are designed and manufactured with quality standards for performance, security, and safety. Unauthorized accessories can compromise the gaming experience on Xbox consoles (Xbox One, Xbox Series X/S.) Players may receive a pop-up warning that their accessory is unauthorized. Eventually, the unauthorized accessory will be blocked from use to preserve the console gaming experience. For a full list of accessories that are supported on Xbox consoles, please visit www.xbox.com/accessories, our support pages here and here, and our Designed for Xbox Partner Hardware Program page here."
ATFGunr
Legend
2 years ago
@sk1lld That’s sweet. PC needs to do the same thing to prevents its use, as well as EA Anti-Cheat needs to be further developed. Some kind of policy statement from EA and Dice would be welcomed.
sk1lld
Legend
2 years ago
@ATFGunr

I agree, it's about time!
OskooI_007
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
Microsoft and Sony needs to block TVs and gaming monitors with built-in AI cheats too.
AngrySquid270
2 years ago
PS5 requires all peripherals to have an authentication/security key. This was true at launch as it is today. This was effective at blocking Cronus initially.
Cronus eventually found a work around by cloning a security key from a legit controller and applying that cloned key to all of their devices.
The recent update essentially just banned that specific security key (and other known cloned keys).
At least that's what I gathered from reading through the drama on the Cronus sub-reddits. I suspect the story won't end here.
I'd like to see DICE/EA develop a software based detection method as well. I think Ubisoft rolled their software based solution 'mousetrap' a few months back. Hopefully that puts pressure on EA/DICE to follow.
ATFGunr
Legend
2 years ago
@OskooI_007 I'd read about it but the video drives it home... that stuff right there is the literal end of gaming. Should have seen it coming of course.
OskooI_007
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
@ATFGunr I felt the same way after watching that video. I guess gaming on AI cheat monitors will be the new meta. 😞
RanzigeRidder2
Legend
2 years ago
I made a similar thread on this topic Yesterday but that was closed as it was deemed baiting. I was just happy to see finally something being done against unfair play, intentionally or not.

What struck me most was I was playing Yesterday as normal on PS5 servers with crossplay off. To me it seemed there were a lot less players than normal. Typically I have no trouble finding a full server on Redacted Conquest but Yesterday I played several matches with lobbies almost half full of AI Bots. At the moment I did not know about this issue. I have had the PS update myself on 24th Jan, but I only learned Yesterday evening about the impact of this update to 3rd party input devices. Coincidence or not, I could not see the empty servers earlier that day being disconnected from this.

Despite I'm happy now, I fear that the companies behind these devices won't sit still and accept their products and business becoming obsolete. I think it'll be only a matter of time for them to find another way in. Just as gaming became big business so did the cheating industry unfortunately.
ragnarok013
Hero+
2 years ago
@ATFGunr wrote:
@sk1lld That’s sweet. PC needs to do the same thing to prevents its use, as well as EA Anti-Cheat needs to be further developed. Some kind of policy statement from EA and Dice would be welcomed.

@ATFGunr I'm not tracking here, PC users don't use Cronus as MKB (the reason to use cronus on console) is our main input method. I've read that recently the exploit to have aim assist with MKB by having a controller simultaneously connected was also fixed so there should be nothing to prevent for PC.
JOGAGATYA
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
@ragnarok013 wrote:
@ATFGunr wrote:
@sk1lldThat’s sweet. PC needs to do the same thing to prevents its use, as well as EA Anti-Cheat needs to be further developed. Some kind of policy statement from EA and Dice would be welcomed.
@ATFGunrI'm not tracking here, PC users don't use Cronus as MKB (the reason to use cronus on console) is our main input method. I've read that recently the exploit to have aim assist with MKB by having a controller simultaneously connected was also fixed so there should be nothing to prevent for PC.
ATFGunr was just celebrating the fact that a cheating method got nerfed on console.
And because we have crossplay in this game, he will encounter less cheaters as a PC player. Good for everyone.