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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdH_pYPmyrA you clearly are new to the series , watch my video and then reply ... i dont feel like repeating myself 3 billions time ..
I have experience in ALL games on consoles and PC from BF franchise , and i can tell the classes have always changed at randoms and none of those design decision have ever helped with cohesion and teamwork , they were handicaps on many maps or were the go to on others , and peoples most peoples changed classes base on maps ... There was always Way to much medics , or way to much engineers or way to much X and Y because peoples didnt played the classes for what they were but for what weapons they had access to . The onlyones playing as teammates were scarse and rare or were part of your own squads and friends on teamspeak ventrillo or discord or in your console friendlist lol
The specialist and Free class system is WAY better than baseless arbitrary decisions that never served gameplay well
Anyone hands up seen someone repairing anything.
- 4 years ago@Man_iLoveFishing have you ever had a random repairing your tanks in other battlefield that were not in your squads ? Because i sure never had , but i did had some freaking randoms getting in my tanks while me and my buddy were reparing to make our tanks blow up 2 seconds laters because he stole it from us ... he enter my gunner spot and reuse to leave and my engi team mates cant get in anymore that happen 10000 times .. Being repair by randoms ? Yep never maybe once across 4 BF release
- Man_iLoveFishing4 years agoSeasoned Ace
In 3 and 4 yes. Sure not many times, but yes. Problem is, since it's now basically "free for all", basic stuff is forgotten since everyone can lonewolf now. Classes kind of forced people to play based on weapons like you said. Can't deny on assault issue, but still, there were medics and supporters. Not saying there isn't now, but tbh i rarely see them now. And it's not that only, its how skins look. Ah right, enemy looks the same as my team.
- 4 years ago
Specialist VS Classes
Classes - The idea, and it worked, was that you would be more successful as a squad working together and it promoted that style of game play by restricting certain items to each class. This setup always had me thinking, what does my team need to succeed in the match, and then I would choose that class. Sometimes that need would change during the match and you would switch classes to fit the role.
Specialist - No restrictions does not promoted team play as much as the classes did. You can be just as successful solo as you would be in a squad. As a specialist you can load out as 3 classes in one, so what do you need a squad mate for? It only supports team play if you choose to do so. And trust me, it is not happening as often as it did with the classes.
I actually tired to use the repair tool today just to see how it worked. Very difficult to see if your doing something or not. You have to watch the vehicle HP counter to tell if your having an affect.
I'm actually not sure if you can destroy a vehicle with one as you could before, as I have tried and been unsuccessful.
- 4 years ago@Stew360 I had some random guy repairing my tank today… in conquest of ages. Old class system is better
- 4 years ago@cornybbq2 Thanks for the anecdote but i have hundreads of anecdotes from past battlefield that are pretty comon that goes against this premise .. Like standing in front of a support guy spamming " I NEED AMO " for half an hours blocking his view to never gets amo from him ..
Or going near an engineer hopping to get repair spamming the request in Chat and with comrose to never gets repair and only see that clown shooting rockets at infantry instead of tanks and APC ,.. Or seeing an entire team taking 90% recon to camp in hills or even in the out of combat zones in orders to boost their KD and never worked objectives and so on and on and on .. SO no Classes system was not better
- ragnarok0134 years agoHero+
@Stew360 wrote:
@Man_iLoveFishing have you ever had a random repairing your tanks in other battlefield that were not in your squads ? Because i sure never had , but i did had some freaking randoms getting in my tanks while me and my buddy were reparing to make our tanks blow up 2 seconds laters because he stole it from us ... he enter my gunner spot and reuse to leave and my engi team mates cant get in anymore that happen 10000 times .. Being repair by randoms ? Yep never maybe once across 4 BF release@Stew360 Yes quite frequently actually I had randoms repair my tanks until BF2042. In fact until 2042 I had people generally reviving, throwing health, and ammo and even spotting. Sometimes it wasn't as often as I'd like but it still regularly happened. Now it seems most people run meta loadouts of weapons and gadgets that normally include an anti-vehicle loadout instead of ammo or health. Revives also seem to be far more rare than in previous installments when I play even with squad revive being maintained from BF5.
No Specialists are definitely NOT classes, they are heroes with no real pre-defined role often handicapped by the additional freedom that DICE gave them with COD's create a class system. Falck is the only Specialist that can even be loosely considered a class - the others have caused far more damage to the balance than they address such as McKay's grapple and Sundance's wingsuit completely destroying the predictable flow of Battle. Is it fun being a flying squirrel, definitely, but now you can have a McKay or a Sundance appear across the map or behind you (away from their squad mind you so further eroding teamplay) with no warning as they don't have to drive or run across the battlefield.
- 4 years ago@ragnarok013 flying squirrel lol love it
- 4 years ago
@Man_iLoveFishing wrote:Anyone hands up seen someone repairing anything.
👋🏻 Me!
Not only seen it but done it.
T1'd the ammo crate.
Working on SOFLAM (wish we got at least an indication of an assist) and Repair tool.
Once Boris is T1'd, plan on working on the luscious Maria.
Teamwork is in the hands of the players, not the class system or specialists.
- 4 years ago
Yes, I’ve had a lot of people repairing my tank on defense. This is when the game actually works for me and isn’t crashing or lagging.
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