Specialist VS Classes
Classes - The idea, and it worked, was that you would be more successful as a squad working together and it promoted that style of game play by restricting certain items to each class. This setup always had me thinking, what does my team need to succeed in the match, and then I would choose that class. Sometimes that need would change during the match and you would switch classes to fit the role.
Specialist - No restrictions does not promoted team play as much as the classes did. You can be just as successful solo as you would be in a squad. As a specialist you can load out as 3 classes in one, so what do you need a squad mate for? It only supports team play if you choose to do so. And trust me, it is not happening as often as it did with the classes.
I actually tired to use the repair tool today just to see how it worked. Very difficult to see if your doing something or not. You have to watch the vehicle HP counter to tell if your having an affect.
I'm actually not sure if you can destroy a vehicle with one as you could before, as I have tried and been unsuccessful.
Yes, I'm wearing pink glasses. Enjoy that better teamwork now. When so said "best" meta will be in order, anything that you just mentioned will be flushed. Remember, free for all and people will always choose best outcome for scoring, killing.
@Man_iLoveFishingIndeed teamwork is better , me and my squads have much more teamplay opportunities that feel our needs and i dont end up with a full squads of useless recons camping miles away from objectives or support guy camping with a lmg and mortar .. or an assault who only take medic classe to get an AR ACE23 OR AEK ...
ALSO dare to say to me repair tools and anti vehicles was of any use in metro or operation.lockers maps ? They were not serving any purpose yet 50% of the poeoples took.enginerr just to have carbines wich are great cqc weapons
I'm over the whole specialist vs class system, its pretty obvious they aren't going to change it. Personally I would've been perfectly happy with 4 classes in AOW and specialists until your eyes bleed in warz...I mean hazard zone. Just carry over the same gadgets and features from older games into this new game and I would've been like a pig in sh*t. Ie engineer class gets repair tool, support gets ammo pouch and can grind for box, recon gets sensor balls, tugs & mav, Assault/medic class gets quick revive, medic pouch with seret(sp?) pistol and medic box something to grind for.
I, and I think the majority of the community, simply don't understand why they need to build a better mouse trap or fix something that wasn't broken when they saw the success of BF4, they saw what worked and what didn't and literally could've just grown off of that. Instead they decided to do a complete 180 which I think throws alot of the BF4 faithful for a loop.
I know people that didn't buy/play BF1/BFV because the older war stuff just wasn't interesting to them and basically have waited all this time to basically a BF4 pt 2 and this game is just a let down in the quality and content.
Those that did buy and play BF1/BFV have a new appreciation for BFV which had a really bad start(and even to this day has its issues) but for the most part is a better game than 2042 many aspects. BF1 is 10x better than 2042 and while graphics wise BF4 can't hold a candle to 2042 the destruction is 10x better than 2042, having to EARN your perks was the skill gap which I thought was unique but was removed from the franchise for whatever reason. I really hope they can turn around 2042 into a good direction.
Specialists are better than old class system
I like using Medic/Support class in previouz Battlefield, it's my go to class
Limiting players from making their favourites loadout never promoted to better teamwork, in fact worse teamwork because players will only use what they like, if they like using Assault Class they cannot revive teammates forever, or people who only likes using Medic class, enemy's vehicle will roam free because there is no one bothered to destroy them
In 2042, I can still using Falck in big maps because now they can supporting teammates while can help destroying enemy vehicle, I dont have to switch to Engineer just to destroy vehicle and maybe I want to grind LMG for Tier 1 while using Medic class I can do that too, grinding your favourites weapon while doing teamwork, isn't that a good thing?
Did you see vehicles slot in Breakaway map? There are 9 slots just for Transport vehicle only, you know transport which also have 30mm cannon, if 2042 still using old class system, I can guarantee you 99% will only using Engineers lol, no reason to use other class
did you ever play battlefield 2? battlefield bad company2? battlefield3? battlefield4?
there is some sense in playing anyone and the sense of team play in these games ...
2042 there is no point in the game at all and there is one great chaos
By that argument the specialist system also never promoted team player and is trash and should be consigned to the bin too.
@Stew360
The only team work oriented games i ever got was with SCRIM private servers where the entire team were clanmates or friends .. And with my squads .. thats all
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I partly agree. Public servers have always been terrible regarding teamplay classes or not. But I have always managed to find a favorite clan server or been an admin on one with a mixed collection of players who kept joining and played BF as it should.
I have also played every BF game except BF2142, BC1 and Hardline
Clan servers can now be replaced by discord and community games/servers/experiences. And they are both free.
team play with friends is as possible now as ever.
team play with randoms was never very good, but is worse now because of how the matchmaking works and no ingame voice chat. Until that is fixed we need to start our game sessions on a discord server. The official one got all you need, if you really want. Or start a new server with a friend or two.
If all of us in these forums practiced the team play we talk about, maybe more will follow and the overall experience will improve. Lead by example, as they say.
I actually dont mind it. I still play medic anyways with my AR and call it good.
