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I have seen Much more varied gameplay and choices in Weapons , Specialist , Gadjets than any previous BF games and peoples change more often their loadout troughout the match to addapt to certain capture points or situation .. IF they have to deal with aircraft , tanks , loads of infantry and so on ..
in BF4 Peoples used 99% of the time the Ace23 or the AEK and that was it
- 4 years ago@Medjumurac Yet its the truth bring data i will be prooven right 😉
- 4 years ago
This thread, wow!!
Specialists system is better, think about situation like this
I like using Assault Rifle and LMG but I also like reviving teammates so we can keep going pushing the objectives while also can equip M5 Recoilles if there's some naughty Bolte need to get rid of. How do I do that in class systems? The game force me that I have to choose if I like using Assault Rifle so then I cannot revive teammates or when I try to grind for LMG Tier 1 I have to stop reviving teammates
Restricting players is not the answer for better teamwork instead they will choose the best weapon for them to kill enemies. You know there are some people that used Engineer in Op. Locker map lol, why? Because they like using PDW and their gadgets are useless in infantry only map
Let the players choose whatever weapons they like combined with no restrictions so they can bring useful gadgets while being effective as a team because they can kill enemies with weapons they are good using at
Do you guys never think like that?
- 4 years ago@Botax_Okky Amen brother !
- 4 years ago
@Botax_OkkyI admit I thought it sounded good on paper to, but in practice in a Battlefield game?
It does not work, it´s just chaos, sure previous games where also chaos, but it whas controlled chaos. The idea of specialists would fit better in a smaller scale spin-off Battlefield game. - 4 years ago
You cannot judge chaos because of Specialist, there are still no voice chat in the game, maybe that is why there's chaos that you speak of @Blackidus
- 4 years ago@Botax_Okky I never use voice chat in any game. The fact that anyone can use anything without any kind of drawback is whats causing this uncontrolled chaos of 100+ Angels running around as one man armies.
There is basicaly no need to play as a squad anymore when you can do it all yourself. - 4 years ago
@Blackidusyou can't be one man army in this game, you can't bring anti vehicle gadget and anti infantry gadgets at the same time, you must choose one or the other
- 4 years ago@Botax_Okky Maybe not at the same time but drop you loadout crate and you are good to go, without even respawning.
- 4 years ago
@Blackidusso? enemy helos or boltes wont wait for you to change loadout to deal with them
When you equip Stinger you can be hunted by Bolte or enemy infantry
When you equip M5 Recoilles you can be hunted by Nightbird or enemy infantry
When you bring Armor plate you can be killed by any vehicles
- 4 years ago@Botax_Okky Well yeah in the cases where the vehicle in question spots you first that´s correct. Not if you are the one who spots it first.
- 4 years ago
@BlackidusChaos is there because squads cant organize or communicate no command structure like planetside or MAG no proximity VOIP and worst of all No more than 4 players lobby and no clan supports ..
Add clans , Add voip proximity and command chanel , Add command structure platoon of 4 squads 16 players and platoon leader broadcast VOIP , And the issue you mentioned will be resolved .ADD 16 players / clans lobby to start matchmaking search for 128 players matches
As for one man army its untrue .. if i chase you with my night bird i wont give you the time to change your loadout .. If you equipped c5 ... If i am in a tank and you choosed a stinger you wont be able to ask me " can you please wait ill call down angel loafout box to get c5 or m5 recoiless " ? hell no youd be a death player walking in front of a 120mm canon and so on .. So yeah - 4 years ago
@Stew360As said in my previous post sure if you spot me first, but not if i spot you first i got time to switch loadout and plan my attack. If i´m allready being chased by any vehicle and it clearly knows where i´m at, me having the correct loadout would not help either.
And how come I get so much more teamwork in previous BF games when 99% of the time I play in squads that dont use VOIP? It´s because the lack of VOIP is not the major issue when it comes to the lack of teamwork.
It´s because players has no more need to stick around with their squad. - Man_iLoveFishing4 years agoSeasoned Ace@Botax_Okky Don't you ever think, when people go full killer mode, they forget basic things? At the end they realize that "I can push for my own" has medipen or health gun for own benefits. Lonewolf but now everyone can be one. No1 will almost replicate engineer load out, why would? Or medic, sure some does but in way lower quantity as in previous bf. Same goes for all other useful classes.
Don't you ever think, when player has free for all, creates comfy load out. Example: tent, bolt action, ammobox and health regen. Teamwork over there hey. Come get some ammo here from other side of the map.
Restrictions made a pack in previous bf. And no, people didn't use deadliest weapons or just lmgs, let's not forget shotguns or bolt actions, it all depends how and where player plays.
You want to kill everything by own, there is literally no teamplay if 1 individual can solo, but individuals can be replicated 64 times in 2042. Jesus, when I was reconning in bf3, i just moved away and let engineers handle or other vehicle handle. - BHLazio4 years agoSeasoned Adventurer
ASAP to save game: remove apecialists, add classic scoreboard, add platoons, add old classes, redesign maps for small infantry, remove automatic vehicle recovery and add recovery points, add platoons, add voip, add server browser, add classic squads like in BF 1 (5 or maybe 6 squad members) ...
- 4 years ago
@Man_iLoveFishing okay then lets say you bring medipen as a gadgets and you try to push for your own, what will you do when you are being hunted by Nightbird or Bolte?
You know there is no infantry only map in 2042 right? There are a lof of vehicles slot on every maps
- Man_iLoveFishing4 years agoSeasoned Ace
@Botax_OkkyI hide.
Edit: Eyes open and look around. If zone is hot, vehicles are expected. If you hide and wait out till it leaves or move to another object.
- 4 years ago
i also feel like the ace 52 is as good as the aek and i use it all the time in locker with good results
- 4 years ago
not as angel i do it it all the time call in any loadout i want
- 4 years ago
what if you already have one i always call one in first thing before i move into a position
- 4 years ago
@Man_iLoveFishing then you already know you can't be one man army in this game, just like every past battlefield titles, you still need teamwork from your squadmates
Well I hide too if I bring Stinger and I meet Bolte on the way to the objective, and I hide from Nightbird too if I bring M5
So what are we even arguing?
- 4 years ago@Blackidus If its true the its either your memories that are innacurate or its cheer luck ..
I have the equal amount of teamwork outside my own squad in 2042 as any pRevious BF we need Proximity VOIP Command chanel bigger lobby and vlan support and teamplay will improove to an extent youve never seen even in a BF game