@UP_Hawxxeye wrote:@3DiE9djua2
Both teams have them, so it cancels out.
I believe that it is also fair to also compare the revives the bots do compared to most playersI would also argue that the disadvantage of being outnumbered is much greater than having bots in the team
I disagree considering that both teams dont always have them nor do they have the same amount of them. Both teams also dont get them at the same time as its up to when human players leave for whatever reason. Your arguement that it cancels out assumes that bots enter both teams at the same time with the same number. If it doesnt it never will cancel out as the team getting bots first will be at a disadvantage. And bots amount of revives is seriously low. For each revive a bot makes (if they do revive) they die 10-20 times themselves. I'd rather have those 10-20 tickets back than 1 bot revive.
Having bots that do nothing but die and cost tickets is not better than being outnumbered simply because being outnumbered means you dont lose tickets to feeding.
Sure its harder to take and maintain objectives when being outnumbered but bots doesnt solve that as they rarely take or hold any objectives.
I'd advice you to pay more attention to the bots the next 10 games you play and then you will see that they are a huge disadvantage for the teams. Its also more obvious in 64p. 🙂
@3DiE9djua2
I will not argue against that the bots much more easily farmable than players.
But I will still put more responsibility for the loss to the ones who possessed a human brain and yet chose to put 90% of it to sleep.
I have never been at a match with an A.I. majority on either team for longer than like a minute.
If you know how to end up in a lobby with mostly A.I on the official non-portal servers, please let me know... for science.
I would much rather be actually playing in a match with bots rather than waiting 10 minutes for a lobby to fill up with "real" players. I'll gladly trade the tickets if it means I'm playing. And I find that 90% of the time the bots are gone within 5 minutes, so I'll keep them, thanks
@Karen0202 wrote:I would much rather be actually playing in a match with bots rather than waiting 10 minutes for a lobby to fill up with "real" players. I'll gladly trade the tickets if it means I'm playing. And I find that 90% of the time the bots are gone within 5 minutes, so I'll keep them, thanks
But this is not the issue Im talking about. You talk about starting matches with bots until server fills. Im talking about ending matches with bots because people left. Hence the word backfill 🙂
I have never been in a match were bots are a part of the team from the so cant comment on the impact. The issue come at the last half of the round when the game stops backfilling human players and instead puts in bots. This gives you less time to make up for the feeding and in many cases its the direct cause of the defeat. Meaning one team lose with 20 tickets only to see 6 bots have died 60 times while the other teams only had 2 bots losing 15 tickets.
@UP_Hawxxeye Theres nothing human players can do when you auto lose 10-30 tickets per bot. Also its not about ending up in a lobby with mostly AI as this happens when people leave the game. I have no way to predict how to end up on a team that will leave the last half however I do know that you wont see the AI if you play 128p due to how the scorebord doesnt show the entire list. So if you are on the upper half of the scoreboard you wont notice the bunch of AI on the lower half going 0-20 each. So try play CQ64p for a few rounds and you will see them in many rounds on either team in the last half og the round. Many rounds will end up with bots backfilling and "helping" the team with 0-20 each :P You also then notice than the number is not the same for each team etc. Many times its only one team that get them.
But Im not going to spend much time discusssing this. Just wanted to highlight that bots isnt helping at all and you may lose games because of random number of bots feeding the other team.
