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Stew360
4 years ago

Stop comparing BF2042 specialist to COD . BF specs were not made to sell skins !

BF2042 specialist change something to the gameplay , they have passive and active skills traits that change the way they play and react to the battlefield and the way they serve the team and teamplay they can provide 

COD Operators are just a fancy name to sell " HERO SKINS " and are PURELY cosmetics and change nothing to the gameplay ... I can play as RAMBO or as GHOST in COD warzone and it would change JackSHi to the gameplay .. it will be exactly the same ...

Specialist in BF were not made to sell skins . They could have done the same things as COD if they wanted to sell skils they could have kept the classes system and sell just skins that are for Medics characters , engineers characters and so on and then it would have been exactly like COD . Selling skins that change NOTHING to the gameplay and the way the synergie work ..

DICE wanted to INNOVATE and make the game better , expand on the classes system and create more choices and more teamplay possibility , more variety and more everything and improove the game ..

Those who keep whining about this change SIMPLY DONT GIVE ANY CHANCE to the system . They just want to be hardhead stuck in their nostalgia and making as if the past battlefield design choice made sens ...

Why a Medic in BF2 had an AR then in Bad company 2 had LMG and in BF3 they had an AR . Why in bad company 1 the Support had Medkits , repair kits and mortars ? Why was the demolitionist stuck with Shotguns in maps like OASIS ? Like are you kidding me ? 

These arbitrary choices that only lead to classes imbalance due to players choosing a classes simply to get a single gadjet or weapons was not HELPING teamwork it was detrimental to teamwork ..

If you play with a squads now that you played before , you have WAY MORE teamplay options and team synergie to experiment with ! not less 

NOSTALGIA IS RIDICULOUS and cloud your vision ! 

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  • Stew360's avatar
    Stew360
    4 years ago
    @Zoikon Free christmas skin to earn . Silly yes .. but does it make specialist made to sell skins ? THey could have sell skins without making any design abilitys and balance around specialist .... COD operator are SKINS ONLY SILLYBOY they do not affect the gameplay ... Play as Rambo or as Ghost in COD and it change nothing , Play as JIGsaw puppets change nothing , they are SKINS ...

    Specialist in BF ARE NOT SKINS . They are integral part of the design and have abilitys etc.. COD operators are purely 100% cosmetics
  • Tank2042Man's avatar
    Tank2042Man
    4 years ago
    @X-Sunslayer-X The OP's argument makes sense in that Dice could sell skins just the same for 4 classes just like they did with BFV.

    You've lost the argument but you just keep on doubling down because other people keep giving you a few likes on your post.

    Move on, you lost the argument.
  • Stew360's avatar
    Stew360
    4 years ago

    @Tank2042ManMost of these kids dont even know what they are talking about ... BF2 had 7 classes Assault , Medic , Sniper , Support , Specs ops , Engineers , Anti tank . BF2MC on consoles had different classes , BF2142 as well There was no Engineers do it all like in BF4 in BF2 etc..

    The current BF2042 is actually very smart and derive from this as well you have lots of Subclasses that can equip various weapons wich lead to a end to players choosing the wrong classes for the wrong reason .

  • CountSero's avatar
    CountSero
    Seasoned Ace
    4 years ago

    @Stew360Yes, that is what I try to say that the Specialist system is the best what they have done.

    Its clearly the evolution of the old class system and it is needed for the huge Maps.

    And its freedom of choice related to weapon and one additional item.

    I think the old class system with locking weapon to a class would lead to unpopular picks (again)

    In my opinion the old class system clearly favours premade teams which could easily lead to dominating one side. (What you could clearly see in BF4, BF1 and BF V)

    But hey the “old class system” is fun, let’s get back to the good old times with the beloved “Teamplay” that never really happened.

    But now with Specialists Everyone “can” be even with their weapon and equipment of choice, that is what I like on BF2042.

    And today in my matches there where so many Teamplay, it was pure fun.

    See you on the Battlefield

    (Sorry when it was not so clear I’m not a native English speaker)

  • Stew360's avatar
    Stew360
    4 years ago
    @CountSero Indeed , peoples want to push the narative as if Dice only made specialist to make skins ... But if they really would have done that they would have gone the same routes as COD operator wich mean Purely cosmetics " HERO SKINS " so there would have been " HERO medic , engineers , support , recon " skins that had no effect on gameplay and only visuals ..

    The current Specialist system is way more like Rainbowsix .. And rainbowsix NEVER HAD specialist prior to the RAinbowsix Siege installement .. And you didnt had this hate campaign toward Ubisoft spewing conspiration theory about Specialist system ..

    And it make MORE sens in BF than it does in Rainbowsix to have such specialist .
  • Tank2042Man's avatar
    Tank2042Man
    4 years ago
    @Stew360 I think the real reason they don't like specialists is purely down to how they look.

    If all the specialists had similar military uniforms and were all men, then I think they wouldn't be complaining about them so much.

    In BFV the amount of crying over historically inaccurate uniforms was next level, the crying lasted for a good year or two, it was just so irrational.
  • Stew360's avatar
    Stew360
    4 years ago
    @Tank2042Man Yeah but i could say the same about BFV skins for the classes . And yet they were all " TRaditional classes " ..

    I also hope they wont go to much over the top and especially no Kawaii rainbowcats type of stufff ..
  • bardiaa88's avatar
    bardiaa88
    New Traveler
    9 months ago

    @Stew360Unfortunately there is no game left with soldiers. All of the are just fortnite. With fancy clown skins. If new battlefield get like that i will quit shooter games forever

  • ElliotLH's avatar
    ElliotLH
    Hero+
    9 months ago

    Since this thread hasn't been active since 2021 I'm going to lock it. 

    Anyone wanting to continue the discussion is welcome to create a new thread or see if there's an active one.

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