Don't agree.
Hell let loose go up to 100 and it's good. Because the overall gameplay design and especially map design was made using a brain.
Which isn't the case for 2042 which could give the impression that 128 can't work, well it could, they just showed they don't have the skill to do proper 128 game design
No voice just adds to the chaos, no real classes doesn't help either.
I imagine the quote for BF3 is in regards to what they could set up at the time to work on most computers and given average network speeds at the time.
Now they would have a lot more overhead to work with, so they would be able to try a greater variety of map sizes, layouts and game design elements whilst achieving acceptable network functionality. Essentially I imagine the Dice team of old, given the opportunity now, could get 128 players to work.
Both Squad and Hell Let Loose have 100 players and they play well but they lean into the milsim genre.
128 Players can work if the maps are set up well and it would work even better if there was some proper squad / team co-ordination systems, like the commander mode from BF2 and BF4.
This could be further cemented if points on the scoreboard were awarded for completing commander / squad orders beyond capturing points.
- ie points awarded for moving to a particular location - points could be awarded based on the distance travelled to get to that location so there would an incentive to do squad / commander orders even when being asked to move a significant distance.
Similarly you could have points awarded for completing a requesting transport order issued by another squad / player / commander and points awarded for delivering another squad to a location; so there would be incentive to use scout / transport heli's for transport rather than just as team / squad spawn locations.
The problem is 128 players with no classes, worse netcode, hitreg and bugs than any other BF game, maps with no flow, little cover, bad spawn locations, poor squad management / few systems for coordinating team play, and the current lack of a proper scoreboard / current scoring system doesn't help give a good impression of 128 players.
At this point it is basically 128 rambo's all running, jumping and flying around like its team death match, and since everyone just wants kills (because this is essentially the only info you get) all players tend to concentrate in one location.
I hope the do continue to develop 128 players; there have been times that the spectacle of 128 players has been amazing, but everything else just hasn't been thought through.
@VRACinque wrote:Don't agree.
Hell let loose go up to 100 and it's good. Because the overall gameplay design and especially map design was made using a brain.
Which isn't the case for 2042 which could give the impression that 128 can't work, well it could, they just showed they don't have the skill to do proper 128 game design
I like Hell Let Loose, but it is a fundamentally different style of gameplay than Battlefield so it's kind of hard to compare the two.
128 player games in BF2042 just feels too chaotic and random although that could change as other aspects of the game are changed, I suppose.
@Ironhead841 wrote:
@VRACinque wrote:Don't agree.
Hell let loose go up to 100 and it's good. Because the overall gameplay design and especially map design was made using a brain.
Which isn't the case for 2042 which could give the impression that 128 can't work, well it could, they just showed they don't have the skill to do proper 128 game design
I like Hell Let Loose, but it is a fundamentally different style of gameplay than Battlefield so it's kind of hard to compare the two.
128 player games in BF2042 just feels too chaotic and random although that could change as other aspects of the game are changed, I suppose.
I agree with you the maps are certainly chaotic at times.
I often see 3 helicopters over the one flag and yesterday I actually saw three condors on the small B1 flag area on Manifest map.
128 players may work on a map designed to allow better protection for infantry and bigger flag areas.
The design of the current AOW maps, coupled with small flag areas and the large amount of vehicles in BF2042, it does get a bit hectic at times. !
Exactly, I wasn't saying 128 players couldn't work I was just saying right now it's just kinda wonky.
Feels like whack-a-mole 😬
