Take the game off the market....
....and give it at least one more year of developement. Even Anthem was a well polished game compared to BF2042 (And we all know what happened to Anthem....RIP). So for god sake, take the...
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EA needs to swallow their pride and put this crap back in the oven for a long time. Battlefield 2042 is just unacceptable right now. It should have been complete and worth the money at launch. But as we all know, EA is the embodiment of greed, valuing money above their players.
After all the back and forth, i have to agree.
I was in denial for 2 weeks, kept playing but it never felt right. At least to me. If you re enjoying the game, please enjoy it.
After some thinking, it all really comes down to bad design IMO. Also the hype (like CP2077) was misleading, that alone will make me never to pay another dime for an EA game.
This is my personal opinion so no need to get defensive or troll police the post. I get that Dice want new gamers in their franchise. Nothing wrong with that and i have buddies who love Cod, warzone etc and never liked BF to begin with. But i think 2042 suffers an identity crisis.
Dice should have:
a) kept 2042 to its roots. 64 player count is fine. Instead focus on refining what worked in the past and what didn't. Keep classes, Elevate destruction, levolution and the war chaos. Keep it serious.
b) release Hazard Zone as a separate product with the Specialists. BF: Hazard zone could be a good introduction for new players that way.
c) release Portal as a free product with a few selected map from past games.
That way, it would be a win for everyone. Love warzone, division etc? Play HZ. 2042 would keep the core BF fans happy. And Portal would be a good nostalgia trip and might even lead to people buying some of the old games. (because aside from bugs, BF one and V were really not that bad).
No patch will fix 2042. It is what it is and i cannot see myself playing it for long. Seeing that it sold so well but player count is already dropping daily - i spent more time yesterday waiting for people to join a match than playing. Not a good sign. And the old saying, just because it made a lot of money doesn't mean its great, applies here. And esp. for a multiplayer only game, its important that people play it and if they dont, your game is dead. 2042 already looks DOA.
- Frankly, I do not know if they are the same developers who gave us the masterpiece bf1 and did they play it before, I just hope to take off the game from all stores and work on it again and develop it more, and those who bought the game can play the portal mode until the game is completed and polished well
@BuzzfunkI tend to agree on this sadly.
Why HZ should be part of the BF-franchise is beyond me.
If they don't like the BF-formula any more, then take BF off the market for some time and introduce other things instead.
It now looks like the BF-name is being used to try to make another Apex Legends/Fortnite-cash-cow. And it doesn't seem like they have any feelings for the 'heritage' of the older games (or gamers).
This could very well be the last BF-like game we will get, and from now on it will become something else.
Why they just didn't release a updated free Firezone/BR along a more classic BF-game is a mystery. HZ was a wild gamble so dumb its seems like Dice/EA has totally lost it at this point. A functional and free BR would have attracted way more players than HZ ever will.
And if they want to make a hero-shooter, why not just introduce a new franchise?- @Buzzfunk One point to add, that hype you refer to is part of the problem when Dice created it themselves.
Look at the first two trailers (core and portal), then look at the trailers after tech/beta and note the completely different tone once people had seen what was coming.
I pre-ordered based on the first two trailers, and while that's completely on me and i'm not pulling the "they conned me, give me my money back!" card at all, they did pull a bit of a bait-and-switch with the marketing (imo of course).
Endwalker came out recently so thankfully i had a fallback, but it was mildly depressing when i realized recently that portal *would* be the only reason to load this back up, and even then you have to find a server where they've tweaked the settings to make them "correct" for the older modes (aka, strip out the 2042 changes that come baked into the quickplay modes), and even then you're stuck with the absolutely inane hitreg issues and (last i bothered to check) curbed progression because shame on us for playing portal.
Even the guns feel off vs 3 and 4, granted it got a little better recently but much like 1 and 5, those i play with are already falling off, and my own playtime the same.
I said it before in another thread, but no more freebies from me from Dice, this was the last pre-order until i see them release a product that launches in a state I'm interested in and it looks like they've got an identity again.
(and no, that doesn't mean bug free or issueless. It just means something resembling what they pitched in their first trailer)
The problem with "fixing" 2042 right now, imo, is that there's nothing of substance to fix, bugfixes aren't going to solve the underlying issue that there's a host of design problems.
Ragnarok made two great threads (one after beta, one 3-4 days into early access) which basically spelled out the issues, we'll see if Dice listens to any of them at some point, even if it means building that substance, this is way past bandaid fixes.
So, good luck to both those who stick it out and Dice, I'll probably play a little on and off to check out the changes, but right now it's friends online and want to play or not at all, and that's pretty much how 1 and 5 ended up, just this time it's *much* sooner than either of the previous titles.
And so it's said, it has zero to do with the scoreboard (although those grating post-match chirpy lines should go asap regardless) or chat or anything relating to those "controversies", it's just meh to bad map design, near zero variation on guns seeing as their attachment system doesn't even work, hitreg that seems to have hitboxes from terrain blocking enemies out in the open that worsens at increasing distances, and just an utterly uninspired specialist system.- @Fringerunner Yes. That's why i compared their marketing to that of CP2077. They had video after video telling people "make your own story" when in the end all 3 life choices were the exact same game. In 2042 case, they had this fx show reel last year, where a massive building would collapse realistically. So of course gamers will eat that up and what they delivered veers hard from the trailors, esp in tone. The "what a time to be alive" trailer that came after release is a much more accurate depiction of what the game is like. Silly and not very good.
And i agree, fixing is wishful thinking. Will they add some more info to the "hiden" scoreboard? Prob. Will be get a super clean lean old school scoreboard? prob not. Specialists will stay .Will they make the maps more interesting ala levolution and more destructive? Nope. Will they add TDM? Most likely. A few more weapons next year? yeah. Im sure.
Still, that doesn't fix that the immersion isn't there. Esp with the story they setup - nothing in the maps makes it look like...there's been a war going on. On the other hand, BF One was much better at that, very visceral experience. And thats what i wanted from 2042. Gritty, Visceral future war fare. 2042 aint it. At least for me.
