Jets perform quite well against ground vehicles other than the wildcat - IMO only the Wildcat-v-Jet balance should be looked at (considering ground vehicles only here)
I don't think infantry should be spending any energy trying to take down jets anyway (not one of these hardcore milsim fans but that would be silly; also, jets don't farm infantry sooo)
For the sake of argument I could agree about the effectiveness of wildcat against jets here, but then we'd have to talk about how effective exactly the wildcat should be against aircraft. Right now, I think that AA is far too effective vs Jets.
I'd disagree about the last part - jets should be as good as AA in a 1V1
@Metal_Daryl97but is it not a bad idea to make something have a fair chance of countering its counter? It would be like rock, paper , scissors where there is no paper and scissors can also beat rock.
What would the be point of a wildcat that can move in 2D space vs a jet that can move in a 3D space much faster?
Also a jet with a 25mm CAN hunt infantry who expose themselves on roofs etc. I have not jet being killed by a jet as infantry by player pilots (bots have killed me though) but I have definitelly killed at least 5-6 soldiers after the 25mm with the jet because they were either roof camping or trying to stinger me.
You also have to consider how jet-wildcat balance affects the performance of jets against other vehicles. Current jet-v-wildcat balance (which is terrible imo) negatively affects the ability of jets to deal with other vehicles (as long as wildcat is not ignoring jet and person using wildcat has decent aim, obviously)
Busy day. Gonna address other comments later.
Look at it from a potential threat perspective then.
JETS.
A decent jet pilots' threats are what? Wildcats and potentially the off-chance that the other team has a decent pilot on it (heli or jet)
The FXM-33 is simply ineffective against jets I would argue, so those threats listed above are pretty much it.
WILDCATS.
Wildcats threats are, jets, helicopters, MAVs, tanks, jeeps (with 50mm cannons), SOFLAMs, not to mention the fact that literally every enemy infantryman has the potential to be carrying M5 rockets, mines or C5.
I think the Wildcat is in a good place balance-wise at the moment, if a jet is focused on hit and run attacks on enemy aircraft then a camping Wildcat in its home base shouldn't be a problem. With the size of these maps it would have difficulty covering half of most maps so that leaves a jet un-contested for the other half.
And if it leaves its base it will have so many other threats to worry about chances are it isn't going to focus on a notoriously difficult to down jet buzzing around anyway.
@Ironhead841 wrote:Look at it from a potential threat perspective then.
JETS.
A decent jet pilots' threats are what? Wildcats and potentially the off-chance that the other team has a decent pilot on it (heli or jet)
The FXM-33 is simply ineffective against jets I would argue, so those threats listed above are pretty much it.
WILDCATS.
Wildcats threats are, jets, helicopters, MAVs, tanks, jeeps (with 50mm cannons), SOFLAMs, not to mention the fact that literally every enemy infantryman has the potential to be carrying M5 rockets, mines or C5.
I think the Wildcat is in a good place balance-wise at the moment, if a jet is focused on hit and run attacks on enemy aircraft then a camping Wildcat in its home base shouldn't be a problem. With the size of these maps it would have difficulty covering half of most maps so that leaves a jet un-contested for the other half.
And if it leaves its base it will have so many other threats to worry about chances are it isn't going to focus on a notoriously difficult to down jet buzzing around anyway.
Yep, whenever I dedicate a round to using the Wildcat I rarely bother targeting the jet.
There's no point, you'll never take a full health jet down unless the pilot is bad.
And once the pilot works out they are playing against someone in the Wildcat who always keeps their smoke saved for their AGMs they usually don't bother trying to take you out.
My priority is choppers and harassing or destroying them if they come to my teams side of the map.
If you're in a jet and you're dying to Wildcats on a regular basis you probably have poor real time map awareness of your main threat on the ground.
